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[–] fubo@lemmy.world 46 points 8 months ago (2 children)

In other news, majority of Palestinians support the removal of Israeli settlers from the West Bank.

Maybe they could work out a swap?

But first, Hamas must be destroyed, and Hamas's supporter Netanyahu prosecuted.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 36 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Wtf are you talking about, there is no swap to be made. Both Gaza and the entirety of the West Bank belong to Palestinians. There is plenty of land in Israel proper. The settlers should just GTFO.

[–] Doorbook@lemmy.world 18 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Settlers Aka occupiers.

Amazing no one stop to ask where these "settlers" come from?

[–] greywolf0x1@lemmy.ml 7 points 8 months ago

Europe, and since they're so intent on genociding the native population like the other europeans who colonised the U.S, Canada, Australia and New Zealand did, it is time they go back home (Deutschland especially)

Remember there's always a place for Jews in Europe and the rest of the developed world, not so much for palestinians and other brown ppl.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 6 points 8 months ago

Are you claiming that the last few decades we have seen the kind of Anti-semitism of the beginning of the 20th century that would justify a program of mass settlement of Jewish people on land outside Israel? Because that is a ridiculous thing to say.

There is no mass scale anti-semitism. Israel is not the safest place for Jews (north america is). Palestinian land is not needed for Jewish settlement, Israel proper has plenty plenty of land, enough to be proposing land swaps every now and then.

Israeli settlements are entirely indefensible and entirely a crime.

[–] t0m5k1@lemmy.world 22 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Hamas is an ideology. Even Israel recently stated this and said you can't stop an ideology. This dovetails perfectly into the sentiment of this article. Both together, plus idf actions show genocide is really what they want.

[–] sailingbythelee@lemmy.world -3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

We can't stop an ideology, but we can destroy governments based on an obnoxious ideology. And that is progress, obviously. Japanese Militarism, Soviet Communism, Nazi Fascism, Italian Fascism, Spanish Fascism... all still around as fringe ideologies, but I'm sure most of us are happy that governments that held these ideologies fell. Israel obviously is trying to destroy the current Hamas government in Gaza, not kill all of the residents.

[–] t0m5k1@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

When the ratio of civilian death to hamas death is far greater, you need to realise something is fundamentally wrong with the actions of the idf.

Additionally, reports of Jewish attacks on Palestinians are up too, which was high even prior to the war.

All that will happen is more people will join the cause to fight against the occupation of Palestine.

You all want to see an end to attacks you saw prior to the war, but you need to realise all that will happen is more hostility due to the wanton destruction of their home.

The leaders the idf seek are in Qatar, but they already knew this, which is why for weeks, the world was told this is a war against hamas the ideology they now state can't be destroyed!

Seems like to me that here we have the same thing that USA did with the wmd excuse.