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Why would they not include male tears in the test?
Because dad says boys don’t cry.
Is your dad Robert Smith?
Not true; beta men cry all the time.
Imagine repressing your emotions because you are too weak and narrow minded to be your own person. What a fucking miserable life
It has its moments. You can get drunk and yell at stuff.
Sigma men are unable to cry whether they want to or not, even when they watch Brian’s Song* like alpha men**
*is this even a good reference to use anymore?
**is this even how the whole alpha/beta/sigma thing even works? Sorry I’m not sure I have the brain worms required to understand
If male tears were the only control, then they run the risk of not finding any result. If you have 3 groups, you need a substantially larger sample size because you are running a less powerful statistical test.
Easier to start with the test that's most likely to work, and narrow it down from there if you succeed
Having men sniff three different samples would still allow for saline as a control and wouldn't really make the data set that much more complicated.
Is that an assumption or do you have experience with research like this?
Just college lab courses, but come on, it's pretty basic. The experiment merely tests a single variable by changing it while keeping everything else the same. There could have been dozens of different samples that men sniffed and it wouldn't really make the data complicated.
It would increase the length of the test, though, so dozens of samples would have been cumbersome. But just two? Literally just "see how the test group responds to sample 1, sample 2, and the control sample"? That's not complicated science. You probably did that in highschool lol
Testing multiple hypotheses this way still requires additional sample size because there is an increased error likelihood. From a statistical point of view, the most efficient test may be to stick to one variable like this.
I'm guessing they had to stay within their funding/budget and didn't want to reduce the sample size to increase the number of variables tested. MRIs are expensive
they should just be getting time on the machine although maybe also tech time. either way doing multiple with a single individual is easier than more individuals.
But that makes it more complex because you have to start worrying about the order they're done in because it might be different emotions playing your first or third game plus the effect might linger, take time to show, etc.
Far better to answer one simple question and prove there is an effect then follow up tests can look at finding the bounds to that and starting to narrow in on identifying mechanics.
its been done with other things. its an mri so regardless of order the simuli should light up the brain regions. either it does it or it does not.
I could believe that. Hopefully they can get more funding for further testing.
I have experience and yes, it would not make it much more complicated. two types of controls are actually common although using male tears would not be a control. but like 5 research targets and 2 controls would not be beyond belief.
They said they had a hard time finding men who would cry.
They also didn't test women sniffing women's tears, or men sniffing men or women sniffing men, or animal tears.
They left a lot of variables out of this one.
I thought the same thing, so I checked the real paper and they do end up explaining their reasoning.
I'm interested if the results are same for male tears and also if they're the same for women who smell either gender's tears.
I feel like they should also have experimental groups of children and the elderly, to see whether age also has an effect on hormonal responses.
I suppose that applies both in regards to tears from and how tears affect. Hmm, I can see this getting rather complicated and extensive.
I find this is my answer to most things honestly.
Seems there was a study that concluded female tears raise testosterone of men. I thus think it's kinda understandable they did it in this way. But, yeah, not really convincing.
Too hard to source
I was wondering myself what the effect of male tears would be.
Because they sought to justify male aggression toward a non-subservient target.