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Almost 90 bombs were dropped in one region in just 24 hours.

Russia unleashed an unprecedented bombardment in southern Ukraine overnight in what local officials described as a “massive attack” in the conflict which has continued to rage even as the international community’s attention has moved to the war between Israel and Hamas in Gaza.

The Ukrainian Internal Affairs Ministry on Monday morning said Russia dropped at least “87 aerial bombs on populated areas of the Kherson region - the largest number for all time.” At least eight people were also injured in other Russian strikes carried out in the Odessa region further to the west on Sunday night.

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[–] SamsonSeinfelder@feddit.de 20 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Can we please give the armed forces of Ukraine finally airplanes? The offensive is going nowhere if they are not supplied with an edge in combat gear.

[–] mifan@feddit.dk 24 points 1 year ago

Unfortunately it’s not that easy.

They have already got a large sum of F16’s, but it takes training of Ukrainian pilots before they can be used in combat.

From what I understand they should be ready to fly in early 2024. That still a long time to go - but you don’t want to lose pilots or planes because of inexperience with that type of airplane.

[–] circuscritic@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Nothing the West is willing to provide is going to change the course of the war alone. That ship has sailed, this is back to an attritional war with positional fighting.

The only thing the West can do now is provide LONG term commitments, written in law e.g. locked in funding for 5+ years of arms transfers.

Unfortunately, I don't know how good the odds are that will happen. I hope it does, but we'll just have to wait and see.

The ONLY other way for either Russia, or Ukraine, to win, is a new technological development that enables a significant change to the current battlefield dynamics.

This is a fairly simplified analysis, but it does align with the most current assessments provided by both the Ukrainian and Russian military leadership.

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

3-4 months until planned delivery of F16s

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

The planes aren't what's taking time. The F-16s are either being used for training, which is totally unnecessary as that training takes place in the US, and we have a few hundred of the things pretty much just sitting around. The training of the pilots is what's taking time. I suspect Putin knows he's about to lose air superiority, and this attack is a demonstration of that. He's using what little weapons he has left, while he still can.

[–] bufalo1973@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Haven't you seen the pattern:

  • Ukraine: Give us [some weapon].
  • US/NATO: No, it would mean WW3.

Let some time pass.

  • US/NATO: Well, we could send you some [some weapon].

Rinse and repeat.