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[–] sirboozebum@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I love that statement has no limits.

[–] lloram239@feddit.de -2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I love how nobody ever provides viable alternatives.

[–] orrk@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

well people did, it's mainly Israeli government that demands the ability to genocide whenever they feel like it, at this point.

solution: stop occupying west bank/Gaza, let the PA actually work to police in Gaza, stop randomly killing Palestinians, stop cutting off their water, allow them to rebuild their own power plant, etc...

[–] nutsack@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

many people have proposed several extremely viable alternatives but Israel doesn't like them and the western imperial countries don't like them either because it would make weird zionist settling very difficult and they want Israel to have control of the entire region because ironically they think it's going to help them win friends and influence people in the arab world

[–] lloram239@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

many people have proposed several extremely viable alternatives

This discussion would be so much better if you people would just stop DODGING THE QUESTION.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Palestinian statehood like the PLO have been pushing for? that's an obvious one. they've already got a prime minister and a president and everything, and they oppose hamas.

or they could tear down the stupid walls and give Palestinians the same rights as Israeli citizens? this one seems obvious enough that I kinda feel stupid typing it out.

[–] lloram239@feddit.de -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How exactly does any of that help to get rid of Hamas?

[–] nutsack@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

you cannot be helped

[–] burchalka@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yep, zero proposals, other than whining that "IDF should do MORE to avoid collateral damage"...

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe if the Palestinians had a bit more land, the IDF would be able to target one house, rather than a whole 6 floor apartment building...

[–] burchalka@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

OR, if they were under IDF control, the police could just enter and arrest the insurgents, similar to how they handle it in West bank... So maybe the 2005 disengagement was a mistake afterall...