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SEO has essentially destroyed search engines, what are some very useful websites that you might not get given by Google?

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[–] hperrin@lemmy.world 60 points 1 year ago (2 children)

https://port87.com

An email service that uses addresses like yourname-appname@port87.com to organize all your email into a folder for every app/service.

You can also make these addresses screen senders before their email goes through, for something like yourname-friends@port87.com.

You can mark them as public and they’ll be included in a list if someone emails the bare address (yourname@port87.com), so you can share your bare address all over the internet without getting spam.

(Full disclosure: I created and operate this service.)

[–] Tuggles@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (5 children)

So, you can do this with gmail already. What's your pitch on why someone should use Port87 instead of Gmail (besides the obvious Google is evil, etc.)?

[–] atoro@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A lot of services have stopped accepting + addresses as valid, or even stripping them before saving. So at least for a while, - addresses could be more useful

[–] oleorun@real.lemmy.fan 6 points 1 year ago

For nerds like us there's a cool article at https://people.cs.rutgers.edu/~watrous/plus-signs-in-email-addresses.html that covers this in detail.

[–] albert@lemmy.sysctl.io 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] lud@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think outlook also accepts it.

Personally I just bought a domain and have a catch all that redirects everything to my email.

[–] squidspinachfootball@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Was that hard to setup? Do you need to pay for server hosting or anything? That sounds pretty useful.

[–] lud@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

If all you want is to receive emails and forward them to another email (like Gmail), it's straightforward and free. If you want to send using your domain, you usually have to pay someone or spend a bunch of time learning how to set up a mail server on your own and how to get your mails out of people's spam box. Or you have to find an easy-to-use workaround (I know there is one for Gmail but it's a bit annoying to set up and use)

Here are the steps to setting up a catch-all using Cloudflare:

  1. Get a domain (they are actually pretty cheap)
  2. Add the domain to Cloudflare. (If you bought the domain from Cloudflare, this is already done. And Cloudflare is among the cheapest places to buy domains so I recommend it.)
  3. Open the site in the Cloudflare web dashboard and open the tab called "email"
  4. Add a destination email and enable catch-all.
[–] rappo@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

you can also just buy your own domain and set it up your gmail/whatever as the catchall, then use appname@mydomain.com

[–] abraxas@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Last I saw, Google charges for this. More than this guy's service.

Also, it seems like his service is about automatically having username-category email addresses. Definitely not hard to replicate, but it circumvents the common blocking of plus-signs in email addresses you see nowadays. And while not hard, it's a bit less trivial to catch any old email with a dash in it and "magically" convert it to a category in the main inbox.

[–] rappo@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Google doesn't even factor into this. Go to your registrar of choice (namecheap, etc), buy a domain, and setup that domain to forward all emails to your email address.

So if you have abraxas@gmail.com and you just bought abraxas.me, in namecheap you can setup *@abraxas.me to go to your gmail account, and then sign up for sites using whatever@abraxas.me you want. There's no + or - involved, use any word you want. Signing up for lemmy.world? lemmyworld@abraxas.me will go right to your gmail (or whatever email you use)

[–] abraxas@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Fair point. That is free. I guess it would boil down to what the mail categorization would look like in this guy's service. I will say I thought it was odd that it isn't just mail middleware with the guy struggling with having to build his IMAP in node.js.

[–] squidspinachfootball@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are you able to differentiate between emails as they come in? E.g., seeing an email was sent to lemmyworld@abraxas.me vs spammynewsletter@abracas.me?

[–] rappo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

indeed. It comes in as reallyshadywebsite@squidspinachfootball.xyz, so not only can you easily filter/label them, but you can immediately tell who had a security breach and/or sold your email.

[–] kaffeeringe@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago

It's not Google. I'm sold.

[–] emptiestplace@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It is trivial to strip +xyz from all of the email addresses in a list.

[–] bitwaba@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] Forbo@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Buy a domain, set up a catch-all and use servicename@yourdomain. Boom.

[–] njinx@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

If you read the website they have a workaround. Email sent to the bare address will Be denied and receive an automated response.

[–] xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] hperrin@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I don’t have it on the promotional site right now, but here’s the breakdown:

  • Receive unlimited mail, 500MB storage: Free
  • Send unlimited mail*: $1/month
  • 2GB extra: $2/month
  • 10GB extra: $6/month
  • 20GB extra: $10/month
  • 100GB extra: $20/month
  • 1TB extra: $40/month

There are upcoming features that I haven’t done the market research and cost analysis for yet to determine pricing, but these are the features that are still in development:

  • Native mobile app (right now it’s a PWA): Free
  • IMAP/SMTP/CardDAV for third party clients and to import/export/sync: Undetermined price
  • Custom domain with unlimited addresses: Undetermined price
  • Additional users for you custom domain: Undetermined price

* The reason for charging $1/month to send email is so that spammers won’t use my service to send spam. A spammer is very unlikely to divulge their real payment information.

[–] xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

That sounds reasonable! Though personally, I definitely wouldn't use an e-mail service without IMAP support.

[–] hperrin@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I feel you. Technically, the service is in a public beta test, only because I don’t have all the features complete yet.

I have the IMAP spec printed out in a binder at my desk. I have to write the server myself because of how Port87 works (I can’t just use an off-the-shelf server, like Dovecot). But I’m working hard to get IMAP support out soon! :)

PS: also, once I do write it, the IMAP server will be open source, just like the CardDAV server I’m working on.