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Yeah I remember being young and naive too

I'm not sure what your you're asking here.

They should do something … but do it quietly, so you don't have to hear about it again?

Discussing the issue with parents doesn't count as doing something? Have you considered that they are doing things and of the various avenues they're pursuing, the part that hurts most is explaining the problem to their own parents? People who should have been on their side from the start?

And what exactly to you propose they do? It seems like the current system is designed to exhaust prolatariat to the point where action is too difficult, and then crush anyone who tries. At least they're posting memes to keep the memory of a better world alive.

Beau of the Fifth Column recently noted that there are people who believe they could survive the OceanGate submersible collapse or the cold Atlantic waters after Titanic sank. There are folks who believe they could win a fight with a grizzly bear in full hungry, fighting form.

And he encourages such fearlessness among people who want to take up the mantle and fight for change to save civilization.

I suffer from ASD and major depression. I was crushed underfoot by parents and kids alike (that is three at a time, each twice my size) and learned early the futility of fighting. I saw how efforts to fit in were useless and have the suicide attempts in my history to demonstrate my awareness that all is hopeless all around me.

But you go!

Unless you are advocating for the mass slaughter of Republicans and Christian conservatives, I am not sure what you think is going to fix anything- because they have a lot of power for some reason, and aren't keen on changing their mind on their whole, "The world is ending but that's good actually" thing.

I don't think being "mopey" about the historical context you live in is necessarily self-defeating or nihilistic. Accepting things are shitty and feeling hopeless is what can motivate people to act against it together. In a time of hyper-capitalism, alienation, and commodification of all forms of "happiness," being unhappy and embracing it can be an act of protest. When other people see you're unhappy with the current state of things it can help them be comfortable with expressing the same feeling. The idea that expressing unhappiness is a bad thing prevents it from being a force to bring people together. Instead people feel like they should always be happy and hopeful and motivated, and that only losers are unhappy, but everyone is unhappy to varying degrees and not accepting it fully causes a lot of issues for people.

I think if anything we live in a time where we're struggling to find balance between these anxieties and hope for any potential change for good, but I think the two are more connected than most realize.

It's not whining. It's not doomerism. We need to fight indeed. But it's not for a better future. It's for the future to not get too bad.

And in a world where 60+ years old a more numerous than 25- yo, it is important to make them understand where their shitty usual vote is taking us. For us to have a chance, the 60+ need to change their vote or to stop voting.

Bootstrap Bill has entered the chat. You've got no problems, eh? Every issue that arises in your life you tackle head on? Amazing.

This guy's doing better than us, everyone! Look at him being above it all and thriving under the assumption his experience is everyone's experience!

Also young people should not expect adult behavior from grown ass politicians. They are not to be respected or believed. The status quo will end civilization as we know it.

Work for the government. Civil service positions are always starving for people with skills and talent, because we do not pay as well as the private sector. It's doesn't offer the prestige of working for Google or Apple but you get better stability and benefits than most other jobs. I'm not saying civil service is for everyone. But if you're struggling to build a future with your three part-time jobs plus driving rideshare on the side, we're paying $23 / hour for entry-level IT work.

I lived in poverty for most of my 20s and had no hope for the future. I told myself I'd never sell out and slave away in some anonymous cubicle. In my mid 30s I sold out, I work a predictable 8-4 schedule, I have health benefits, I have a retirement plan, and I've been able to leapfrog ahead from working one full time and two part time jobs and eating mostly peanut butter to having my nights and weekends free, AND being able to afford to go out and do stuff, AND being able to buy a home.

Principles are great but man they're expensive.

I am so tired of this self-defeating mopey shit. Claiming to be powerless is easy. Do something. Do anything. At very least, stop discouraging people.

Say it again for the defeatists in the back.

I feel like there’s a large voting demographic that believes in “fuck you, got mine” and the last 20 years do not give me hope for a future where it is fixable

Let’s say I raise an army, take over the world and kill anyone who shows signs of opposition.

If I fix all of the world’s problems then what’s to stop someone from killing me so they can step into that role and ruin it? If I live to be 100, what’s to say my replacement puts the issues of the many above themselves?

My plan is going full hedonist and mock and laugh at fucking everything and encourage the collapse. Fuck humans. Y'all did this not me.

Becoming an insane prepper sounds like fun. I'm going with that one.

I like the episode of Love Death and Robots where they come to earth and look at how different groups handled the end of the world

You wanna hear mopey shit, come back to yourself after your election.

I've run for office, and I don't plan on ever doing it again. Unless you're already famous or have a huge local support network with lots of free time, stay home and save your money and time and sanity.

Going vegan is a start. I encourage everyone to at least give it a try. It's not as difficult as it may seem at first and can have a huge environmental impact.

Cheers