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Australians have resoundingly rejected a proposal to recognise Aboriginal people in its constitution and establish a body to advise parliament on Indigenous issues.

Saturday’s voice to parliament referendum failed, with the defeat clear shortly after polls closed.

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[–] foggy@lemmy.world 108 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Oh it's not just us.

UK, and Canada have sordid pasts as well.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 85 points 1 year ago (3 children)

UK

Where do you think the US learned it from?

[–] makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml 60 points 1 year ago

Where do you think Australian colonialism comes from?

[–] andrew@lemmy.stuart.fun 19 points 1 year ago

I LEARNED IT FROM YOU, MOM AND DAD! 😭😭

[–] Cosmonauticus@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

You can throw the French, Spanish, Dutch, and Portuguese in there too

[–] ASeriesOfPoorChoices@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You mean... the UK. Given that the USA, Canada and Australia were all British colonies, ergo the same past.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah but no because we are talking about today and not the 1700s.

[–] ASeriesOfPoorChoices@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"sordid pasts"

"bUT WE're tAlkiNg aBouT TodAy!"

🤦 goddamn you're an idiot.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] ASeriesOfPoorChoices@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So, are we talking about the past or today? Make up your mind. 🤦 seriously, how do you remember to breathe in the morning?

[–] DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah but this is the present.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Canada is actively shitty to their indigenous people.

[–] Afghaniscran@feddit.uk 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm from the UK so I can vouch that the government are actively shitty to it's not rich people.

[–] supert@lemmy.sdfeu.org 2 points 1 year ago

If I want to explain the class system to someone from a former colony, I start with colonialism, but practised at home.

[–] snooggums@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As is the US. Let's have a threesome!

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago
[–] Ilandar@aussie.zone 3 points 1 year ago

I'm not disagreeing with you, but the point to understand here is that Australia cannot even make it over the very first hurdle. Indigenous peoples are recognised in Canada's constitution, the Canadian government has signed many treaties over hundreds of years and Canada even has a form of Indigenous self-governance in Nunavut. Australia cannot get anywhere even close to these things. Constitutional recognition was just rejected, widespread treaty making is only in its infancy and self-governance is an absolute pipe dream.

Other former colonies may be shitty towards their Indigenous peoples, but at the very least there is generally some form of recognition of their importance as Indigenous. In Australia, we do not even see Indigenous peoples as Indigenous. We don't understand what that word actually means. So much of the commentary from No voters during this referendum was about how Indigenous Australians are just another racial minority group, equating them with Chinese Australians, Indian Australians, etc. People fundamentally do not understand the difference, because they do not understand the history of their own country.

[–] wildwhitehorses@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

And that is why I am soo embarrassed, and shocked, and dissappointed, and