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[–] azezeB@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] lemmy_st3v3@lemmy.world 37 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Well, I have worked with two of them React and Angular. Now working with React. And the further the project goes, things just get messy, and I mean really messy. The concept of everything should be a small function is in practice not true. No dependency injection(I know you can bolt another library on top of it, but really?). The testing is a pain, it gets harder and harder to test isolated functions. Custom tags, attributes that look like the standards that are documented at MDN but are not. And most info I can find online feels like elaborate propaganda. I mean there is just nothing against React to be found, really nothing. That's just not possible in IT.

[–] kurwa@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I agree, React sucks. Been using it for years at work.

[–] joyjoy@lemm.ee 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm gonna tell your boss you said that.

[–] kurwa@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Oh he knows 😂

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

And most info I can find online feels like elaborate propaganda. I mean there is just nothing against React to be found, really nothing.

It's just Stockholm syndrome. Everybody that wants to criticize it is too traumatized to say anything, and everybody stuck with it makes a way to think it's great.

Add to that the fact that it is great in theory, so nobody without direct experience can criticize, and you get only positive reactions.

[–] azezeB@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Thank you for the explanation, so do you think angular is better? I want to start doing front-end and I don't know what to pick

[–] naught@sh.itjust.works 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

React is awesome. Sure it has problems but what doesn't? It's easy to learn and JSX is great. I would try Next.js, Remix.js or just use Vite. Personally I'm trying out CT3A but that's a bit on the edge (and uses Next). There are a lot of jobs with react out there and it's a joy to work with imo.

Vue is supposed to be easy but I had a hard time with the initial learning curve. The community seems much smaller too. I have heard good things about Nuxt though.

Angular is robust but the hardest of the bunch to learn based on popular sentiment i've heard.

[–] jana@leminal.space 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

JSX can exist without React; it's essentially just an alternative syntax for function calls.

(That is, annoyingly, handicapped in the Typescript checker)

[–] CannotSleep420@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 11 months ago

Solid uses JSX and is both much more performant than React while removing several of it's footguns. You also have WASM frameworks like Leptos that use similar syntax (RSX) while using languages that aren't JS.

[–] naught@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago

Very true! Shouldnt be a point for react i guess. I believe they originated the syntax perhaps? Regardless, I love it (:

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Look at your local job market, where you want to work, or what you want to build to determine what to learn.

No point learning any tech unless it aligns with the problem(s) you're trying to solve.

[–] pm_me_your_quackers@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Doesn't matter what an internet rando thinks, there are more React jobs at the moment. I've only seen Angular used by large enterprises for internal BI apps, which are harder jobs to get.

[–] azezeB@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah I'm not basing a life choice on a rando, but it can help to hear his motivations. Once I have that I can draw my conclusions.

Thanks for your input too.

[–] pm_me_your_quackers@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Honestly, easiest to learn is probably React. That + market share would make me learn that first. Newer frameworks tend to base what they do with ergonomics from React. Even my favorite (at the moment) frontend library, SolidJS, has all their tutorials with references to how you do things in React, and how similar signals work with Solid. Learning Vue, Svelte, all have the same issue; they compare themselves to React to show you how they do things with their library. And it makes sense, for better-or-worse.