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As part of his Labor Day message to workers in the United States, Sen. Bernie Sanders on Monday re-upped his call for the establishment of a 20% cut to the workweek with no loss in pay—an idea he said is "not radical" given the enormous productivity gains over recent decades that have resulted in massive profits for corporations but scraps for employees and the working class.

"It's time for a 32-hour workweek with no loss in pay," Sanders wrote in a Guardian op-ed as he cited a 480% increase in worker productivity since the 40-hour workweek was first established in 1940.

"It's time," he continued, "that working families were able to take advantage of the increased productivity that new technologies provide so that they can enjoy more leisure time, family time, educational and cultural opportunities—and less stress."

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[–] ShadowZone@lemmy.world 52 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Except for the unicorn, your last paragraph is my reality. Oh and it's five weeks vacation, actually. My wife even has six. Sick days not included. Those are all part of the universal health care we have.

38h work week btw. Rarely overtime.

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I have 35 days on my current job but it's the first time. Normally it's been 30. I'm in Sweden.

And we don't work no 40 hours here. People come in around 9 and leave around 16 with an hour lunch break and a lot of talking and slacking during the day. This is in IT and it's been like that on every IT job I've ever had.

Nobody can or want to focus for 8 hours per day their entire lives, that's madness. We are humans. I usually focus for maybe 4 hours to get something done but I don't push myself to work more then necessary. My salary doesn't go up with more work produced.

[–] Gingernate@programming.dev 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] Ricaz@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's like this in all Scandinavian countries.

  • 6-7 weeks paid vacation.

  • Free healthcare (except dental. Also we still pay for prescription drugs, just not insane prices).

  • 37 hours per week.

  • Almost equal parental leave (you're forced to take a month off work, paid of course, mothers a bit more, but then split is as you want).

And then keep in mind that we pay 40-60% taxes depending on income.

[–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When we had our son, I had 2 weeks time off from work. HR sat me down and told me "by law, we can't fire you until you take one day over the 2 weeks of unpaid time off. You are so lucky! You used to get zero time off. I remember when we had our baby, I worked until midnight while my wife was in labor."

Then I was fired 3 months later for "subpar performance" and they noted I seemed fatigued and frequently forgot things. Like, no shit I had 3 hours of sleep per day for months.

We pay about 25-30% in taxes IIRC but health insurance bleeds you dry. We just incurred $4500 medical debt because my wife had to go to the hospital. $100,000 student loan debt. $35,000 child birthing costs, of which $8500 was out of pocket.

[–] Ricaz@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, all of those expenses would've been covered by the taxes where I live. Even the student debt - we get about $900 per month while studying and education is free.

Y'all need some democratic socialism

Sounds a whole lot like Norway, presuming their wife is 60+ years

[–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Man that sounds so great. Currently work weeks are varying between 40,45 and 50. PM. I'm up to about 2 1/2 weeks vacation a year working for a small business. But at least they let me take it, unlike my friend who works at AWS who hasn't had a vacation in 5 years.

Family also pays $2400/month in health insurance payments, although 2/3 of that is covered by our employer. $6,000 deductible.