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[–] ProcurementCat@feddit.de 61 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (31 children)

When the Soviets invaded Czechoslovakia in 1968, there were some british leftists who cheered for those tanks driving into Prague. They proved by this that they didn't care about leftism, socialism, democracy or anti-imperialism at all - they approved the imperialism and militarism of the Soviet regime.

Their praise for the rolling tanks is what gave them their name: Tankies.

So, people who love North Korea, or defend russia invading Ukraine, people, who stand by even the most autoritarian, anti-democratic, militaristic, imperialistic regimes - just because they call themselves "socialist" or "communist" - are "Tankies".

[–] proletariatnerd@iusearchlinux.fyi 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (21 children)

So, people who love North Korea, or defend russia invading Ukraine, people, who stand by even the most autoritarian, anti-democratic, militaristic, imperialistic regimes - just because they call themselves “socialist” or “communist” - are “Tankies”.

Would be good to point out these people you are mentioning are not all the same.

There are people that Are critical of Russia, but don't buy from western propaganda and are being called tankies too.

It is more like, if one dare to question the western narrative = tankie.

[–] fae@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (20 children)

but don't buy from western propaganda

i.e. are critical of russia, but stand by even the most autoritarian, anti-democratic, militaristic, imperialistic regimes - just because they call themselves “socialist” or “communist”, except for russias invasion of ukraine

[–] proletariatnerd@iusearchlinux.fyi 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

btw seens a paradox that you guys so "pro freedom" are asking for bans of people that you disagree.

[–] fae@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

it may seem that way, but no. pro-freedom actually means keeping people away who wanna take our freedom. i.e. authoritarians like tankies

[–] HornyOnMain@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

isn't that the same logic that the tankies are using though - because they think they have to be authoritarian to the people who they believe are trying to take their freedoms i.e. capitalists?

[–] fae@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

a community not welcoming assholes =/= a state killing everyone who's in their way. one is authoritarian, the other is not.

[–] proletariatnerd@iusearchlinux.fyi 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

keeping people away who wanna take our freedom. i.e. authoritarians like tankies

what did they do to take your freedom? built this whole platform we are using right now?

[–] fae@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

just because they do good things too doesnt make them perfect

[–] proletariatnerd@iusearchlinux.fyi 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I am not arguing they are perfect. It is just extreme to ban those folks altogether.

Neither are we perfect.

[–] fae@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

i disagree. if you welcome one, they will all come and bring their friends, and then u have a tankie community ;)

[–] proletariatnerd@iusearchlinux.fyi 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

oh right. Then we should treat them like cockroaches, right?

The Canadians came up with an idea you might agree, it is called "Final Solution".

[–] fae@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

fuckin hell im not saying genocide them, theres literally a fucking lemmy instance just for them. they can go there, tankies not welcome here.

[–] GuyDudeman@possumpat.io 7 points 1 year ago

LOL... ironic, since those of us how don't like tankies specifically don't like them because tankies are perfectly fine with mass-murder, and we're not.

[–] CrimsonOnoscopy@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago

"Paradox of tolerance"

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