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  1. We're trying to improving working conditions and pay.

  2. We're trying to reduce the numbers of hours a person has to work.

  3. We talk about the end of paid work being mandatory for survival.

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[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 40 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Billionaires should not exist. They should be taxed out of existence.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Seriously. If they want to keep their money, they should be forced to invest it in companies that generate jobs.

[–] SuckMyWang@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I hate this mentality. Government spends 50m on pointless projects like building a giant fan in the desert that does nothing just to create jobs. So 30 people have to build it then other people have to maintain it and clean up the dust it makes. But they created jobs and “kept the economy going strong.” Just give these people the money and let them enjoy themselves. It’s the same underlying concept of UBI. They have more free time to spend their money efficiently that they might actually create something of need. If not at least they’re not forced to waste their fucking time for the sake of numbers on a spreadsheet

[–] Monkeyarson@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Exactly, look up the broken window fallacy

[–] Kage520@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Yeah bullshit jobs make me annoyed too. Why can I not pump my own gas in your state? "Oh, those people need jobs." Okay that makes it more annoying to get gas but okay.

But there are jobs that need doing! These people could be building solar panels, working at carbon sequestration, or even just staffing childcare which we desperately need. Why are we wasting our workforce in made up jobs when we have work that needs doing?

[–] MrSilkworm@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

I think I understand you're pro UBI. Just wanted to state that I'm pro UBI too. Especially instead of bullshit jobs.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Isn’t that exactly where most billionaire’s wealth typically is? A lot is in stock of some company they started or invested in.

You can’t gobble up the excess value created by workers if there are no workers.

[–] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

...unless you gobble up your rivals instead, creating a monopoly, shrinking the job pool through consolidation, sweating the remaining employees that are competing for the vanishing opportunities to keep a roof over their heads, causing market failure and generally fucking everyone over.

This is the strategy adopted by the likes of Bezos, Zuckerberg, the Waltons, and arguably the majority of the biggest drains on our society. Billionaires

[–] Zink@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

Well yeah, all that consolation and abuse of the working class means more productivity per person, and since we definitely aren’t going to pay them more that means we’re now worth $100 billion versus the measly, honestly embarrassing, ten figures we had a decade ago. Single-digit billions, could you imagine the shame?

/s but what you describe is honestly seen as a good thing by c-suite sociopaths. The super rich people you mentioned are heroes to them. Such efficient use of capital to create shareholder value!

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

Yep. No pity. There is an upper limit on how much money one person can meaningfully benefit from. And our system creates these insane leaks that pour value into mile-deep, inch-wide holes. It’s honestly a form of waste. Radical capitalists should embrace this idea.