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Not hating on open source, just let people use what fits their expectations and needs and stop deterring them with gatekeeping :P

UX = user experience

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[–] SyJ@lemmy.ml 26 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Don't forget this is a community built around Open Source software with many refugees who came because proprietary apps were forced on them.

[–] kamenoko@sh.itjust.works 48 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

The Lemmy protocol is open source and you're free to use an open source solution. You're free to use sync for Lemmy in much the same way you can run a Spotify client in Linux. One does not destroy the other.

Tldr if you don't like it, don't use it.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

but shouldn't I go online and complain about it loudly?

[–] the_itsb@midwest.social 9 points 1 year ago

How will anyone know I exist if they can't hear (or read) my bitching?!?

[–] dartos@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, but only if you agree with the other people who are complaining loudly, otherwise it’s hardly worth the time.

[–] SyJ@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah yeah, but OP made a post about it so I thought I'd add some of the reasoning behind people being that way. I don't care what app people use as long as I can use the one I like.

[–] tool@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You're free to use sync for Lemmy in much the same way you can run a Spotify client in Linux. One does not destroy the other.

I don't understand these mini-Stallmans and their identical attitudes like this. One Stallman is enough, please develop a personality and realize that things do come in shades of grey.

I contribute to FOSS projects & I love Linux and have been using it professionally for a couple of decades, but I'm never going to stand up an LDAP server on it when Active Directory exists, the same way I'm never going to use Windows as a Docker host or a network load balancer.

Use the best tool for the job, don't be a zealot.

[–] kamenoko@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

The mini Stallmans have been waiting for the Mach kernal for 4 decades, it was bound to drive them a little crazy.

As much as those atrocious combinations give me the shivers, especially docker on Windows, we really should be advocating for the freedom of choice (even if that choice might be the wrong one). People should be free to do what they want, and such freedom should be celebrated.

[–] bitsplease@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

literally no one is forgetting about that - And the great thing about Lemmy is that no one will ever be forced to use an app they don't want to use, whether it be closed source or open source.

What OP is (rightly) complaining about, is the huge amount of holier-than-thou rhetoric that's plastered all over the front page of Lemmy right now giving users shit for wanting to use a closed source app.

I love FOSS, I'm typing this comment on a linux desktop right this moment (arch, btw) - but sometimes the best tool for a job (by my own completely subjective opinion) is a closed source tool. Using a closed source app to access an open source system isn't a betrayal of that open source system.

If you personally don't want to use a closed source solution, or if you specifically think that Sync is a bad solution for any number of possible reasons, then you're free to continue using open source solutions, I really don't see why so many people care so much about what apps other people are using, Sync existing doesn't take anything away from open source solutions (except maybe users, but again - you can't force people to use your software)

[–] fushuan@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

the huge amount of holier-than-thou rhetoric that’s plastered all over the front page of Lemmy right now

All I'm seeing in the all frontpage is people glorifying Sync while belittling other apps and complaining about those complainers, Like dude, I have the sync community blocked because while I like that it exists, I don't want to be force feed with that content, and now I still am because it's being discussed in other communities.

What's annoying is the way some people talk about the app, stating that it's the objective best app ever, like zealots. I don't give two flying fucks about the price but I swear that the alleged complaints of FOSS users may be in part because of the attitude of other users.

[–] bitsplease@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Please link me a single post other than this one that glorifies sync while belittling FOSS apps (not that this one belittles Foss apps in the slightest) - preferably with more than a dozen upvotes

Because I posted a screenshot in this thread with five of the top 10 posts on my front page being the exact opposite, and I really don't believe you when you say that you're being spammed with "sync zealots"

People like Sync, but it's the haters that are being spammy and obnoxious about it, not it's users

[–] sabreW4K3@lemmy.tf 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are FOSS alternatives available. I personally use Jerboa daily.

[–] SyJ@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago

Yeah I'm aware of the alternatives but I thought it could do with some rationale as to why people aren't overly impressed with Sync as they were on Reddit. Nothing against the app tbh, happy with the one I have.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)
  1. This is not a proprietary app (in the first party terms, it's still a 3rd party app)
  2. This is literally one of the apps Reddit killed off
  3. It's literally not being forced on anyone
[–] SuperIce@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

It is by definition a proprietary app.

[–] SeerLite@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think the comment you're replying to is not talking about late Reddit refugees but early FOSS enthusiast that were on Lemmy before. You're missing the point.