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This is the place for discussing the potential collapse of modern civilization and the environment.

Collapse, in this context, refers to the significant loss of an established level or complexity towards a much simpler state. It can occur differently within many areas, orderly or chaotically, and be willing or unwilling. It does not necessarily imply human extinction or a singular, global event. Although, the longer the duration, the more it resembles a ‘decline’ instead of collapse.

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The Busy Worker’s Handbook to the Apocalypse (medium.com)

submitted 1 year ago by RealAccountNameHere@beehaw.org to c/collapse@lemmy.ml

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In case you haven't read this…you should. It's an excellent resource to send to the folks you know about why you believe what you do.

Oh, and you can follow the author, Sam Hall, on Mastadon: https://mas.to/@SamYourEyes

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[–] RealAccountNameHere@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Check out this article. As the author points out, "some technology that is completely unknown right now will save us!" is magical thinking. A quote:

We could call the implausible amounts of disappearing carbon in the models a kind of “carbon rapture,” magicking the pollutant away by mysterious means. It’s easy to see how those eager to believe we can be saved from climate change’s effects without much effort would want to believe in the coming carbon rapture. But the dubiousness of this joyful “tech-will-save-us” assumption is getting harder to hide.

[–] ZoeyBear@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I didn’t say it would save us from the carbon we already have ways to farm massive quantities in doors, using artificial greenhouses. Not a lot are built but they do exists, there are alternatives that are completely ignored in favor of doom and gloom. I agree carbon wise we are screwed from stopping the climate changes happening, but we definitely can and will adapt.

[–] RealAccountNameHere@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fair enough. I think you and I probably agree except for one thing—I believe more in the greediness of humans than our ingenuity. Which probably makes me a nihilist, I dunno. :)

[–] ZoeyBear@beehaw.org 0 points 1 year ago

My personal experience is colored here but I am alive today because of human ingenuity and selflessness, I have to believe in it .