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This community does not affirm practiced LGBTQ+ lifestyles

Rule 8 of this community is in clear breach of the first goal from the lemmy/mastodon.world code of conduct

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[–] antik@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I didn't want to remove it out of a kneejerk reaction. They had this in their sidebar:

  • Rule #6: Banned subjects include pro-Nazi and/or pro-racist sentiments; support for conspiracy theories such as Q-Anon, International Jewish Conspiracy, Holocaust denialism, etc.; “is X the mark of the Beast?” drivel; anything calling for direct/indirect violence against any individual or group, including LGBTQ+ individuals or groups; pornography of any kind; gore; spam; asking for money; pro-Mormon and/or pro-Jehovah’s Witness posts.

  • And then there was rule 8 🙄

[–] artichoke@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's a difficult line to toe, why not work with them to let them have a community rather than directly ban them?

Similarly if they do move, do you defedeate?

I'm pro LGBTQ+ but not talking about something isn't the same as actively being against something.

If this is the direction of lemmy world, I'm fine with that, but it would be good to set clear boundaries that a lot of religions have no home on lemmy world so they don't waste time building a community here then get it nuked from orbit.

[–] antik@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think our views on LGBQT are clearly laid out on https://mastodon.world/about

There is a difference between hosting those communities here and federating with instances who have them.

Unless it turns out to be problematic we won't defederate.

[–] artichoke@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Makes sense, thank you for your hard work and clarity!

[–] VanillaGorilla@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Lol, let me shoot an arrow to my own knee real quick

[–] rist097@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think you made a rushed decision, you are creating a dangerous precedent and you will be bombarded by people being outraged by minor things requesting you to ban communities for no good reason. In this case, if there was a violation it could be resolved with discussion instead of an outright ban.

[–] antik@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] rist097@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The community was not even active, so there is no one maybe to send an appeal. If you look at the upvote, and downvote ratio of this post, you can see that there is no unanimous opinion on this case, and the decision should be taken more carefully on this one. If you don't want to push your other users out of the instance.

[–] antik@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They have a rule in the sidebar that clearly goes against the instance rules. They can appeal and if they don't have anyone to do that there is another problem because that goes against the moderation rules on this instance.

[–] arkcom@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You could delete the rule and then put a post in the community asking for someone to step up to moderate.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I'm glad to see rules being enforced in the face of bigotry instead of the constant leniency to which bigots have become accustomed and to which they regard themselves as entitled.

[–] antik@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And then there would be people complaining that we as admins go around changing community rules behind moderator's backs. You can't please everyone.

We leave the door open for the moderators of that community to sort things out.

Maybe to clarify when we delete a community, all posts are still there. They are just "invisible" so nothing is lost.

[–] arkcom@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They can appeal and if they don’t have anyone to do that there is another problem because that goes against the moderation rules on this instance.

If it's against the rules to be unmoderated, there should be a way to add mods, since there's obviously no way for the current non-existent mod to do so.

[–] antik@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes which can be done by contacting the admins by posting in !support@lemmy.world or !moderators@lemmy.world or sending a mail to info@mastodon.world which will create a support ticket

It's not as if we're hard to reach right?