postmeridiem

joined 1 year ago

lmao, still seething? Let that virgin rage out

[–] postmeridiem@lemmy.antemeridiem.xyz -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Oh dear, I thought you were at least smart enough to gather the economy isn't personal finances.

Have you tried mailing your thought provoking posts to Putin? Maybe it will change the reality I described. Maybe he never considered it's not very nice and he should simply leave, and actually you can win anytime.

Have a nice Sunday night seething at the internet in your mansion, be sure to get your butler to telegram Putin before bed

[–] postmeridiem@lemmy.antemeridiem.xyz 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Yeah and public spending is just like personal finances, don't you agree?

[–] postmeridiem@lemmy.antemeridiem.xyz 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

All things considered it seems they got a pretty good deal out of it

[–] postmeridiem@lemmy.antemeridiem.xyz 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Although there is quite a gap between saying metals are dual use, and playing coy about specific chemicals that are most useful as precursors for advanced chemical weapons being dual use

But, this is about as international as sanctions get.

Not true, North Korea is sanctioned by everyone via the UNSC with more specific sanctions from other countries and bodies like the EU.

And the word “international” doesn’t imply global, planetary or a majority.

Right, when they say the international sanctions by the international community they're definitely not trying to imply anything. I wonder in that case what they mean when they mention the rules based international order.

[–] postmeridiem@lemmy.antemeridiem.xyz 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

A large majority of the world engaging in sanctions and not the usual suspects regularly framed in the press as the "international community." It's framed that way to imply that the entire world is doing it besides a few "rogue states" like China, North Korea or Venezuela, as if they were handed down by the UN or the world is united in agreement with the western sanctions regime. What would be far more accurate than "international sanctions" would be "western sanctions."

For a more immediate example of how framing effects perception, look at all the people in this thread upset about China giving Russia weapons. No weapons are listed, just drones, helicopters, and metals. Upon opening the article you'll see the drones arrived before the war and are presumably consumer electronics, and there are six undefined types of helicopters. Some posters even mentioned attack helicopters, as if the Telegraph would not be screaming about attack helicopters and not helicopters if that was the case.

It's a complete nothingburger and like all nothingburgers it plays with language to let you fill in the gaps using the context they have provided. Russia is being "armed" with some consumer drones, six personal helicopters, and metal, and the whole world is in uproar about it.

[–] postmeridiem@lemmy.antemeridiem.xyz 6 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Dual-use goods

Such goods are classified as dual-use, meaning they also have civilian purposes, allowing China to skirt international sanctions and claim that it conducts only legal trade with Russia

The "international sanctions" btw:

You can't just unilaterally decree someone can't be traded dual use goods

We were just talking about who is or isn't fascist, not the justifications for the war, but I'll answer both. A significant portion of the west no longer really has elections, it has a two sided vote between "democracy" and fascism. Even by the standards of liberal democracy, can you even call it a democracy at that point? It sounds more like a regularly held fascism referendum. So when people call Russia fascist from these countries it just doesn't really strike a chord with me. Their favorite Russian leader, Boris Yeltsin, set up the structure of the RF while bombing parliament and they don't call him a fascist. It's just opportunistic propagandizing.

As for the Russian reasons of the war, I would imagine Russia is concerned about the mostly defensive military alliance built to dismantle them getting ever closer to them, and what happens when said alliance decide to not be so defensive for the fifth time in the last 20 years.

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