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[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 7 points 2 weeks ago

Borg borg borg

You can combine it with a FUSE mount of the Google Drive, I’m not sure if that works but I don’t see why it wouldn’t.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 2 points 2 weeks ago

Actually: I changed my mind. I'm going to give this a real response.

I didn't treat you like a child. I explained what was going on, and you seem to have a mentality where someone who's explaining something to you that you don't know is "treating you like a child" or "being a pedantic asshole."

That's entirely on you. Most people, once they reach adulthood, are able to listen to something even if they don't already know it, able to learn from the world. I was a little bit snarky talking to you initially, but then I felt bad when I realized you just didn't know how Wikipedia worked, and were operating on some bad assumptions, but what you were thinking made actually perfect logical sense. Go back and read my "Got it, that does make sense" message. I read your message, I got where you were coming from, and like I said, I realized you just didn't know something, and I tried to help you understand it.

You have to let go of that mentality where someone who's telling you something you didn't already know is offensive, and you have to try to seize the upper hand and try to explain something back to them, or decide they're being a jerk or something or it needs to be a hostile interaction. That's going to make it impossible for you to learn. It also makes a lot of interactions more stressful than they need to be.

I realize that this whole message is explaining more stuff to you, which you probably won't react well to. But like I said, that's on you. If you were willing to absorb this, it would help you.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 1 points 2 weeks ago

Yes!

I said plenty, you just can't hear it. Oh well. I tried.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 2 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Yes! That is an extremely productive attitude when someone tries to explain to you how Wikipedia works, and then when you seem to miss the point, gets a little more pointed about it in hopes that you will pick it up and realize that you missed something, and learn a useful nugget of information relevant to our current discussion.

It seems you're happy with how much you already know, in life, because you are committed to not learning anything else beyond your present level of achievement. Congratulations! I hope this approach serves you well, and I look forward to seeing how much and how far you can get with it.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 0 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Yes! You have successfully found the content page. If only someone had kindly explained to you that there's a whole other side of Wikipedia which is more relevant to this discussion. It would have been nice for you to be able to have a whole patient explanation about how it all works.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 0 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

Got it, that does make sense. You should know, though, that Wikipedia on the content side is a different thing from Wikipedia on the talk page side.

People can have nice things to say about a source in their Wikipedia page about the source, on the content side, while there’s still a consensus on the talk page side that the source is unreliable and shouldn’t be used for sourcing claims about other matters on other Wikipedia pages. The big table that I and someone else linked to are good summaries of the consensus on the talk page side, which is what’s most relevant here.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I think you are both right. I edited the title away from Newsweek's misleading title, and added a note adding some context.

I'm not sure I should have posted this, to be honest, for that exact reason.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 1 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)

They're not saying that. How did you summarize 23 words using 39 words, and get the summary wrong?

They're saying that there is no external professional vouching for MBFC's conclusions, which is their usual gold standard for things being "reliable." And that, on top of that, people within Wikipedia have specifically pointed out flaws with how MBFC does things, without any of the qualifications and categories that you added.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

How long did you wait? Sometimes it takes some time for things to get federated.

As long as someone is subscribed to it from your home instance, it should get there, though.

Edit: A word

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat -1 points 2 weeks ago

Tell me you have no idea how Wikipedia works, without telling me you have no idea.

You're putting trust in the stuff that doesn't mean very much, and "best guess"ing that the stuff that is dependable is not.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 9 points 2 weeks ago (13 children)

It’s from https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Perennial_sources#Media_Bias/Fact_Check

There is consensus that Media Bias/Fact Check is generally unreliable, as it is self-published. Editors have questioned the methodology of the site's ratings.

I think the perennial sources list gets a lot more attention than the wiki page for MBFC itself, and probably the standards for judging it reliable are higher.

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submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat to c/fediverse@lemmy.world
 

I've been seeing some complaints about paywalled content being posted in the rss.ponder.cat communities.

Here's my proposal:

  • Split the bot into two users: free@rss.ponder.cat and paywall@rss.ponder.cat.
  • Make a rule similar to some other communities, forbidding people from posting full text or links to archive.is on the paywalled communities.
  • If you like some of the paywalled content, subscribe to it. You can afford $5-10/month for one or two sources, and it'll help them a lot. Creating good content on the internet isn't free.
  • If you don't want the paywalled content, block the paywall bot and you won't have to see it in your feed.
  • If you don't want any of it, block both bots or the whole instance.

It's a real problem that Lemmy communities sometimes have paywalled content from 50 different sources, which makes it annoying to use and unreasonable to tell people to subscribe to content they want to read, because they would need 50 different subscriptions.

I think the RSS bot is a better solution than just ripping off content from all the high-quality online news sources and shrugging your shoulders if they go out of business and can't do it anymore a year from now. Everybody wins. High quality online news can still pay their bills, and you get a good way to stay up to date on it within Lemmy.

I'm posting this here instead of in the meta community because I have a feeling that most of the people who are saying they don't like the paywalled content are not subscribed, and I'd like to get feedback from the community as a whole.

What do people think?

Edit: I've implemented the proposal. There are now separate bots @free@rss.ponder.cat and @paywall@rss.ponder.cat.

 

Hackaday.com serves up Fresh Hacks Every Day from around the Internet. Their playful posts are the gold-standard in entertainment for engineers and engineering enthusiasts.

/c/hackaday@rss.ponder.cat hosts every post from Hackaday for your Lemmy reading pleasure.

!hackaday@rss.ponder.cat

 

I started up my own instance and now I have realized that there's no reason anyone would join mine instead of any other instance.

That's no good. What neat stuff would the Fediverse like to see in a Lemmy instance?

  • Follow RSS feeds in your Lemmy feed? I have that already, in a way, but it would be nice to be able to do it for any feed automatically without it being clunky.
  • Follow Mastodon users? Or tags?
  • Embedded video? That seems costly.
  • Hackability? The ability to run your own customized front end? Or good scripting features in the browser console?
  • A better looking UI? This one is functional but it's not pretty.
  • Better moderation? I have heard the Lemmy tools aren't that good.
  • Something else?
 

Yesterday I posted about rss.ponder.cat, with communities automatically fed from a selection of RSS feeds. Today I made !meta@rss.ponder.cat, with:

  • A sticky-post roadmap of the RSS feeds that are already available
  • A place for people to request communities to be added
  • A place for me to post announcements about new communities

I don't plan to spam !newcommunities@lemmy.world with every new RSS feed, but I figured I would let people know the location of the community that will get announcements about new RSS feed communities, in case they want to subscribe to it.

Cheers!

 

rss.ponder.cat is live! You can have Lemmy communities fed by RSS news feeds:

A lot of big sites offer feeds for different categories of article, but I'm not sure it is smart to mirror every single one into a Lemmy community. The ones above, for periodicals like the BBC, are only the front page stories, which seems necessary for it not to turn into spam.

The Ars mirror, on the other hand, I broke down by category, at least partly. You can get all the articles:

Or, you can subscribe to individual categories of articles:

I'll see how it goes. I don't want it to become a source of spam.

If you want to have an RSS feed as a community, ask. They're easy to add. Just say something and I'll set it up.

Happy RSSing!

 

Ever wanted to have an RSS feed in Lemmy? Well now you can!

rss.ponder.cat is set up to mirror any RSS feed into a community. You can subscribe to the feed like any other community and you'll get every new story as a Lemmy post.

Check it out:

!nytimes@rss.ponder.cat

!bbc@rss.ponder.cat

!arstechnica_science@rss.ponder.cat

Leave a comment with any RSS feed and I'll create a community for it, and then you can have RSS in your Lemmy.

Check it out!

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