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Media Bias / Fact Check bot declares itself as unreliable (lemmy.world)

submitted 2 weeks ago by egrets@lemmy.world to c/bestoflemmy@lemmy.world

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[–] yeahiknow3@lemmings.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (14 children)

Where’s the critique coming from? The Wiki seems to have nothing but positive things to say. Might be an error. Ironic.

Scientific studies[23] using its ratings note that ratings from Media Bias/Fact Check show high agreement with an independent fact checking dataset from 2017,[8] with NewsGuard [9] and with BuzzFeed journalists.[10] When MBFC factualness ratings of ‘mostly factual’ or higher were compared to an independent fact checking dataset's ‘verified’ and ‘suspicious’ news sources, the two datasets showed “almost perfect” inter-rater reliability.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 9 points 2 weeks ago (13 children)

It’s from https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Perennial_sources#Media_Bias/Fact_Check

There is consensus that Media Bias/Fact Check is generally unreliable, as it is self-published. Editors have questioned the methodology of the site's ratings.

I think the perennial sources list gets a lot more attention than the wiki page for MBFC itself, and probably the standards for judging it reliable are higher.

[–] yeahiknow3@lemmings.world 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (12 children)

I read that. My best guess is that this is either an error that hasn’t been updated in light of empirical studies corroborating MBFC’s reliability, or more likely any self-published list gets the “unreliable” sticker automatically.

Also, making claims about “a consensus” without sourcing these claims is mighty suspicious. Disappointed.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat -1 points 2 weeks ago

Tell me you have no idea how Wikipedia works, without telling me you have no idea.

You're putting trust in the stuff that doesn't mean very much, and "best guess"ing that the stuff that is dependable is not.

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