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“The new station will play a curated selection of songs based on what you’ve been listening to but haven’t heard before.”

Looks interesting. To me, Apple’s curated playlists have always been superior in quality to Spotify’s but they really don’t have as vas of a selection of curated playlists. Apple Music stations are often excellent, too, if you know how to crate them.

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[–] kinttach@lemm.ee 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It takes Apple forever to add obvious features like this but I’m glad they have. I’ll use it a lot.

[–] danielton@outpost.zeuslink.net 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Call me an Apple sheep, but they usually get it right when they finally get around to something.

[–] lumberjacked@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

There are exceptions and I think Apple Music is one of them. They've been playing catch up with Spotify. I only have Apple Music because it's with the bundle of everything else.

Edit: grammar

[–] t0lo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago
[–] gdbjr@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Not this time. I have found about 3 new (to me) country songs I like and my discovery playlist is full of nothing but twangy country , which isn’t even the genre of the new songs I do like.

[–] kemsat@lemmy.villa-straylight.social 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Did people forget about Pandora? That’s basically what Pandora was, at least back in my day. back creaks

[–] maegul@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

yea, for those not paying attention ... the "enshitification" has been a slow development for a while now. There was a moment back circa 2010, before google stopped being "not evil" and when the iphone/smartphone was still new and web pages were capable of doing anything and problems could be solved with apps etc etc ... that tech just seemed "good" and to be doing "good", and there were reasons to think so. But good things have been falling away slowly for years and big things turning shit too.

[–] monad@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago

Has enshitification already reached “gaslighting” status where people just use it when it’s not appropriate?

[–] rarkgrames@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

We don’t get that in the UK so it’s never really been an option for us unfortunately

[–] basskitten@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Pandora wasn’t only focused on stuff you haven’t heard though. It was a mix. It’s actually closer to the Apple Music “personal station”.

[–] prwnr@programming.dev 6 points 1 year ago

I used it today for 8 hours and damm, I must say that it is quite good. Definitely better than the "keep playing song when playlist ends" or the curated weekly lists. I had to skip songs only few times and I didn't mark ANY as "dislike", where I often that to do so few times in a row on the other options.

Perhaps a change in how I use Apple Music made this better, cause I learned from some comment here or on Reddit, that the algorithm acts better if songs are marked as love/dislike to tell it the taste, not like in Spotify where it just goes along the lists or what I listened to in the past.

[–] Knasen@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ok good, but I still lack some kind of "incognito" listening mode. Spotify doesn't have this either.

I listen to music I like and then I have other music on for "cover" och concentration, like bland non engaging things in the background to cover up other intrusive noise, like family or co-workers.

Having these to fairly opposite genres mixed together isn't a great experience when it comes to history or discovery functions.

Being able to easily exclude music/playlists would be great from these types of features.

And having another account isn't an option since we are maxed out of subscriptions.

[–] pelley@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There is an option in Settings to use the music history played on this device (whether phone, iPad, or AppleTV) which sounds like the kind of toggle you are looking for. The setting is on by default but you can turn it off temporarily when playing something you don’t want influencing your algorithm.

[–] Knasen@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Awesome, a bit cumbersome to get to but seems to be the feature I need. Thanks!!

[–] Javish@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

About time!

[–] HeartyBeast@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

I thought this is what my weekly New Music Mix playlist was meant to do.

[–] FistfulOfStars@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I miss human DJ's.

To be more specific, I miss the left-of-the-dial 11pm variety.

And Shoutcast-style radio with live DJ's. I still spin up a stream every now and then, but it's not the same as it used to be.

[–] humad@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] FistfulOfStars@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

This is great, thank you.

[–] mjhagen@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Twitch is pretty great for that.

[–] octalfudge@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just tried it, works really well! Added most of its recommendations to my library

[–] i11@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

Oh so you’re supposed to select “Add to Library” than “Love” to keep them. I just moved from Spotify and YTM and I’m used to clicking on Like/Heart to save music. That’s kind of confusing.

[–] mikestew@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago

Apple surely can see the complete catalog of The Who that I have in my library, including the vinyl albums that I've ripped. Not that the Music app could see it, but Apple could also see the eye-watering amounts of money we've spent on tickets to watch 75 year old men prance around on stage (via the tickets from the last three tours in Wallet).

So what's the first song played on this new Discovery station? "Who Are You?" by...wait for it...The Who. Whether you're a Who fan or not, is there anyone walking this planet over the age of 21 that hasn't heard that song?

[–] tekchic@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

I tried it today and liked it so far, only one skip. For the most part it was "adjacent" to things I've listened to, and brought in a couple of new offerings. I have been really into the "My Station" stuff since it basically plays me an array of the things I already love, but the "Discovery" mode is interesting and I'll probably use it here and there to add likes to the algorithm for better suggestions.

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Will be interesting to see what it suggests I discover. Currently it thinks I’m really into dababy and maroon 5, which aren’t my taste at all.

[–] DeepFriedDresden@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Spotify added an AI DJ that usually works well, except for when it plays an artist I "used to listen to a lot but not so much recently" and then 5 Machine Gun Kelly songs come on. I've listened to him for about 30 seconds in total the 6 or so years I've had Spotify and it was only out of morbid curiosity when he released a "punk" album.

Though their discovery Playlist is on point for me.

[–] Addfwyn@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's a bit late, but hey I will take it still. I tend to have pretty bad luck with discovery apps as I have narrow musical tastes, but I will give it a shot for a while.

I have had the most luck with the custom Apple Music stations honestly, seems to have the best balance of songs I know and like with newer stuff in the same vein. I am not sure I would spend as much time on a playlist entirely composed of new things.

[–] maegul@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have narrow musical tastes

Tell me about it. So often ... I'm thinking to myself ... "sighs ... it's not about the genre ... it's about being good".

[–] mjhagen@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

There’s this song from a Dutch band that I like, but when I start a station with it, I just know it will misinterpret the reason why I like that particular song and inevitably it’ll start playing random songs by Dutch bands.

[–] JackSkellington@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Most of the indie artists I listen to and YouTubers publishing covers are available in Spotify but not in Apple Music. Moreover, I need to log in to apple account in macOS (system wide account) instead of just music app (app account). This is a no-go for me

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

I just checked on my iPhone and I see the discovery playlist, without logging into anything else though?

[–] RembrandtQEinstein@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It would be great if they would give some love to the apple music preview app for windows 11. It is a source of constant frustration for me, with regular crashes, wild volume changes and overall sluggishness. Sadly it's only slightly better on macOS

[–] xpsking@midwest.social 1 points 1 year ago
[–] NENathaniel@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Sick, hope it works well

[–] Alto@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

That's not what it is. It's just the apple equivalent of spotify's mixes.