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[–] Tygr@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I still have Adobe blacklisted for demanding cloud with monthly subscriptions.

[–] housepanther@lemmy.goblackcat.com 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fuck Adobe with a 20ft light pole! We pay beaucoup dollars for their so-called enterprise support and to say that they suck is to understate things. It took them literally 4 business days to admit that one of our user's "licensing problem" was a problem on their end. They fixed it and had the nerve to send me a survey. I ripped them a new one on the survey but they likely don't care.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I haven't used an Adobe product in over a decade, so they can just go pound sand. FOSS has good enough support for what I need, and I'd much rather deal with a mailing list or issue tracker than Adobe any day of the week.

[–] DarraignTheSane@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Yeah, sure, bringing things back on prem where 90% of organizations do not have comparable resources in-house to manage and secure them, as opposed to leveraging a cloud provider and properly maintaining the shared responsibility model is going to "set us free".

[–] jmp242@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 year ago

You might think this, and I bought into it. Then I saw the recent Azure and M365 issues and responses to cloud security and nation state hacking of gov cloud stuff with consumer outlook accounts. I realized the cloud providers have all the incentive to sell that they hire better people because of economies of scale and do more things than you might locally, but in reality to outsource everything to the cheapest bidder in a different low cost of living country.

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It sure seems like computers invented security problems just to ensnare us.

At least if you listen to people bitching about ever increasing security improvements on Apple devices.

What a weird situation overall.

[–] DeltaTangoLima@reddrefuge.com 10 points 1 year ago

Cloud software is a prison or, more accurately, Hotel California. Cloud infrastructure, however, doesn't need to be the same.

[–] beyond@linkage.ds8.zone 9 points 1 year ago

There is no cloud, it's just someone else's computer.

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago

Local-first all the way!

Cloud software is like being married, but your wife lives with another guy a few cities over. Someone else is benefitting at your expense.

So many great software products go downhill once the desktop versions are put on the back burner for cloud-based versions: , Evernote, Picasa (Google Photos), so many accounting/finance software, etc.

[–] matjoeman@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

Would Git be considered local-first software? Could you call it's data structures CRDTs?

[–] Arghblarg@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That banner just makes go "1 2 3 4 5, 6 7 8 9 10... 11 12!" in my head :p

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

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[–] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

I would love for local-first to become the norm again, at least for some stuff like document collaboration.

P2P had its day, but perhaps it can rise again!

[–] Steeve@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I fucking hate wired's dramatic clickbait headlines so much lol. I'll believe it when I see it, because corporations love "the cloud". It's way cheaper than on prem, usually less downtime, and you can blame someone else when your system goes down.

[–] AnarchoYeasty@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ok but local first p2p software doesn't rely on centralized servers. So it's not a huge deal if you don't have always on servers. Hell you can probably avoid servers all together.

[–] Steeve@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean you'd still need servers right, local first p2p means your data is stored locally and elsewhere, which would also be a privacy nightmare for corporations.

[–] andruid@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Selective peering is a solution here some. Encryption by default and other "ZeroTrust" centered security modeling can make it more possible.