Definitely ironic to me that there's so much fear about EV batteries spontaneously combusting. And in the end, one of the largest recalls for spontaneous combustion is from an oil regulator in an ICEV 😅
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You aren't wrong, but at the same time, I'm not buying a Hyundai/Kia ev anytime soon either. They constantly have electrical problems with fire risks.
And considering that they've buried stuff before (metal shavings in their ICE engines like 4 years ago), I could easily see an EV wiring problem they're sitting on lest they destroy their standing in the EV market. Not that EV fires are actually much worse than gas car fires (a little harder to put out, but far less explodey (gas is also hard to put out, just not as hard.))
Dont forget the fact you can drive off with a usb cable as a key.
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The recalls cover certain 2023 and 2024 Hyundai Palisades, as well some 2023 Tucson, Sonata, Elantra and Kona vehicles. Affected Kias include the 2023 Soul and Sportage as well as some 2023 and 2024 Seltos vehicles.
Direct links to the recalls
For Hyundai:
https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2023/RCAK-23V526-5528.pdf
For Kia:
The recall doesn't include the 2022 Santa Fe but that's what AP uses for the photo... Great job AP. Must be too difficult to find a picture of one of the 8 other models that are actually affected.
I have been wanting a new car for about 6 years now... money issues keep me from doing it. Amazingly my 16 year old car that I've had the entire 16 years is still kicking. Anyway for the last 6 years I've always said I am going to buy a Hyundai Sonata next, at least a used one. Every year that goes by the more and more I hear terrible things about them... at this point I really don't think I can invest in them. How are they really screwing up this badly for so long? Fix your stuff! At this point they had to have lost trust in a large amount of its customers. The sad thing is I honestly have no idea what car I want now because none of them looked that good for the same price as the Sonata.
Honda
I currently have a Nissan Sentra. Just looked at the Honda Accord which seems to be the only higher end sedan and its not bad compared to some I looked at but still doesn't look as nice as the Sonata and is more expensive for less. I'll keep this one bookmarked to look at it some more, thanks!
Mazdas are really good now. under Ford they were just okay
Doesn't look like they have a sedan? It's the only type of car I am looking for. The hatchback one does look nice, I am just not a fan of that style.
Currently drive a 07 mazda 6. It's a bit of a boat compared to smaller sedans like the Hyundai but it drives like a dream. Maintenance isn't too pricey either
They so have a sedan, the Mazda 6! Looks beautiful in my opinion
You are right, I was just looking at the main site. For whatever reason all I see for 2024 models is the hatchback. I just switched to 2023 and found it. Although I only see the Mazda 3, now I have to look for the 6. Not sure why they make it so hard to find the cars.
Edit: after looking some more I found that the 6 was discontinued. Nobody loves sedans anymore!
Ahh so they did, I wasn't sure so I didn't mention it. 2023 was the last year then... A used one can still be very new I suppose.
I guess even Mazda has to comply to the demand for SUVs and Crossovers...
Get a second-hand Camry.
I once saw someone refer to Kia and Hyundai as the "fast fashion" of the auto industry. Now I can't help but look at them and see h&m. It looks trendy, and it's great for one or two wears, and then it falls apart
The recalls cover certain 2023 and 2024 Hyundai Palisades, as well some 2023 Tucson, Sonata, Elantra and Kona vehicles. Affected Kias include the 2023 Soul and Sportage as well as some 2023 and 2024 Seltos vehicles.
Interesting. At least this time they are taking action before any major shit goes down like it happened with the previous generation cars.
At least they issued a recall this time. People can whine about Ford all day but they do proper recalls these days.
Though their other solution to the lack of ignition kill switch problem allowing people to steal your car with a USB cable was to send out a steering wheel lock to people (like the Club people used back in the 90s)
Between this and the theft issues, it's not looking good for these guys.
You'd have to be an idiot to purchase one of their cars after all this
No need, they're easy to steal.
Especially now that everyone is parking them outside.
My partner's old hyundai genesis always "smelled" like the engine had been running "hot" despite being fully OEM with no mods. Any time she drove back from a store and parked in the garage, I could go out an 20 later and smell that hot metal engine. Never had another car that smelled like the engine was running hot/hard.
Car only lasted ten years before the timing chain slipped off the pulley and destroyed the engine block. We'll never own another hyundai/kia product ever again that's for sure
Timing belt gets inspected at 60k miles and I believe replaced at 90k. I would assume belt slipping off at 10 years would be due to lack of proper maintenance.
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Do you mean timing belt? (Chains don't go on pulleys) You're supposed to change those... That's just called not maintaining your vehicle
It was a timing chain - it failed somehow and destroyed the engine. It's a well known issue with this specific engine block which is why they stopped making them and they're impossible to find new-in-crate engines for this car.
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Those child workers don't work as well as they used to!
Here's some advice; Don't but Hyundais or Kias. And especially don't buy Chevys. Awful garbage vehicles.
I think the takeaway might be "don't buy cars"!
New cars cost so much compared to even a few year old used vehicles its insane.
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Don't know your evidence for that comment but the Kia I drive is a very good and reliable car.
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They're pretty solid budget cars these days. The choice between a Chevy and a Hyundai is obvious.
I would drive a motorized unicycle before buying a Chevy.
Same
That used to be a good rule, but they have definitely improved a lot over the past decade
I have a Chevy Spark and it's a great car. Haven't had many issues (just the ones it came with when I inherited it) but my old mechanic put shitty aftermarket parts in it that have worn down after a year. Charged me outlandish prices as well. My new mechanic is getting official Chevy parts and is charging me much less. I hope to get at least 5 more years out of it. It's a 2015 and runs exceptionally well, so I'm confident I can get to 2028.
Park them outside where they’ll be stolen by Kia Boiiyz*
- yes, we know these models aren’t push button. save it, pointdexter
Seems like this just happened a few months ago or am I wrong?
Seems to happen somewhat regularly:
https://www.npr.org/2023/03/23/1165726222/hyundai-kia-recall-fire-risk-park-outside
https://www.newsweek.com/kia-motors-warns-thousands-suvs-fire-risks-recall-1746838
https://www.nhtsa.gov/press-releases/consumer-alert-important-hyundai-and-kia-recalls-fire-risk
https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/08/business/hyundai-kia-fire-recall/index.html
https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/kia-recalls-295000-suvs-sedans-for-more-fire-risk-problems/
Someone feel free to double check those are all separate recalls, but I think they are. How often does this happen with other makes?
Thanks for the links. The thing is if they didn't ask owners to keep their cars parked outside I probably wouldn't have even noticed.
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