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[–] nostalgicgamerz@lemmy.world 62 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Can’t believe it’s not OLED

[–] SomethingBurger@lemmy.world 64 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They will release an OLED Edition 5 years after so you can buy it again.

[–] sparky1337@ttrpg.network 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Jokes on you I’ll be the 0.1% that wait till before the switch 3 to buy.

[–] NECRO_PASTORAL@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

that could be literally 10 years from now

[–] sparky1337@ttrpg.network 3 points 1 year ago

Yea so by then I’ll have a substantial backlog haha.

[–] vd1n@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago

Lcd would be fine at a higher resolution imo. But... Are they staying with 720p again?

[–] IWantToFuckSpez@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah that sucks but if it’s a brighter high nits LCD screen than i might prefer that more on a portable device than the deep blacks of OLED. I use my OLED tv when I play at home anyway.

[–] Zanz@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

It is very hard to get low resolution small oled screens. Cell phones use pentile displays that are about 60% the actual RGB resolution of the input they need. You would be looking at it needing to be outputting in the 4k range on a 1440p ish display to use off the shelf parts.

If you wqnted to have a 1080p RGB oled it would need to be about 11" and that is too big. It would also have burn in issues with any reasonable brightness.

[–] bighi@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

It hasn’t been announced yet. Up to this point, everyone is just guessing.

[–] _sideffect@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I can't believe it's not butter

[–] vd1n@lemmy.ml 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] elbowdrop@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Of flash memory.... I think I bought a 2TB flash card for my steam deck.

[–] phi1997@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

The Switch uses MicroSD cards too

[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 22 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I have the lowest of low expectations for Nintendo consoles. They're always filled to the brim with gimmicks, that while creative, are not fun to use and then the best games are always ones that completely disregard the gimmicks anyhow. I wish they would focus more on making consoles that LOOK and FEEL good when you're playing instead of trying to create the next new thing no one will care about in 5 years. They also really lost the plot on the Pokemon franchise and I feel like that will start to lose them a lot of money when people start to wake up from their comas and realize Gamefreak doesn't know how to make video games and the last good one they made was am eternity ago.

[–] zkfcfbzr@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I wish they would focus more on making consoles that LOOK and FEEL good when you’re playing instead of trying to create the next new thing no one will care about in 5 years.

Isn't this basically what they did with the Switch? It's very low on gimmicks that never get used (infrared? Touchscreen?), its games on the whole look pretty good (Most first party titles), and people still play it over 6 years later. Also Nintendo has nothing to do with the development of Pokémon - so while shit, they hardly deserve the blame for that.

[–] ianis@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's a hand held console with detachable joycons

[–] Whitebrow@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The “joycons” don’t bring me joy. They make my hands cramp and are only full of cons.

[–] kurosawaa@programming.dev 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think the joy cons make it great for party games, it's really convenient to get a 4 player game of Mario Cart going with just two pairs of joy cons.

[–] CluckN@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah until someone gets one with drift

[–] rigatti@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

You're supposed to drift in Mario Kart! /s

[–] all-knight-party@fedia.io 3 points 1 year ago

Third parties do it for me. Sadly, I wish Nintendo would release official ergonomic joy cons. Instead I must buy something Chinese with questionable QC, to get something fully featured compared to the feature-neutered but high-quality Hori licensed ones.

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[–] FromAbyss@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, Gamefreak has been shitting out Pokémon "games" for decades now, right? If they didn't realize that in the last 15 years, would they really care about the next 15? I almost feel like each generation becomes the "default Pokémon experience" for their players.

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[–] panja@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Gamefreak doesn't know how to make video games and the last good one they made was am eternity ago.

Unfortunately I doubt anything will change because people continue to buy no matter how bad it is

[–] SignorPao@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They better create more solid joycons, drifting be damned.

[–] Dharkstare@mastodon.world 9 points 1 year ago

@SignorPao @TheTechNerd Some nice Hall Effect joycons would certainly be nice.

[–] Zanz@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I hope they get rid of them. They make the handheld in ergonomic and ruined the amazing wiiu controller scheme they had. I have never had a good time using joycons and they cause too much compromise.

They should keep support so things like ring fit work, but they need to go or not be made for kind of symmetric 2 player.

[–] Tevren@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I really wonder if a Switch 2 will do as well as the first Switch.

More and more handheld gaming PCs are released by the time the Switch 2 comes around. Yes, a Switch 2 does have the advantage of access to Nintendo games (if we ignore Emulators) and I would imagine lower price, but I haven't touched my Switch since I got the Steamdeck. I even sold an extra Switch Lite I had.

I rarely, basically never used the Switch plugged into a TV. I only played it in handheld mode with a skin that made it more comfortable to hold than a flat brick. Nintendo games rarely drop in price and sales don't reduce prices by much VS PC games that often go on sale and older games drop to very low prices on sale.

I'm certain there's a market for a Switch 2, I'm just wondering if it will do as well as the first Switch in the current market with more options.

[–] echo64@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Most people who play Nintendo Switch do not even know what a steam deck is. The vast vast majority.

[–] TwilightVulpine@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

It's revealing to keep in mind that the Switch sold 125 million units, and the most optimistic estimates put the number of Steam Deck sales around 3 million. Keep in mind that the Steam Deck never aimed to sell as much as major consoles, but that still shows how niche it is in comparison.

[–] brawleryukon@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

For 99+% of the Switch's target demographic, there aren't options.

They have never heard of the Deck, the Ally, or any of the other handheld PCs. They know three things about gaming: Nintendo, PlayStation, and Xbox. Those last two don't let them play Mario, Zelda, or Smash Bros., and they certainly don't let them play on the go, so they essentially only have one option.

I love my Deck and I hope to see the handheld PC market continue to grow and evolve, but it's just delusional to think that it will ever get to a point where it will have even the slightest impact on the third-best-selling console of all time (or, more to the point, its successor).

[–] ShakeThatYam@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'd buy a Switch 2 if it played first party Switch games at 2K/60fps. Specifically Pokemon, Zelda, and Xenoblade.

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[–] aard@kyu.de 1 points 1 year ago

I mainly got a steamdeck as the switches are occupied by the kids. For portability it is way worse than the switch - and the removable controllers on the switch are great, especially for some mukltiplayer games. I feel most of the games making proper use of those didn't make the jump from the wii, though - for movement games in front of the TV the wii is still regularly used. Switch mostly is used as handheld.

[–] XTornado@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just need them to confirm existing cartridges work and I am there buying it day one....

[–] victron@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Fuck yeah, I've spent some serious buck on games.

[–] squirrelwithnut@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Deca@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Switch 2 OLED coming in 2028

[–] elbowdrop@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Just to make sure, that was my point. I bought a $110 (on sale) 2tb card and expanded the memory. Games are becoming much bigger, maybe not Nintendo but the point stands. It's irritating buying an expensive purchase then having to buy more. Idk it kinds feels like I want them to offer a "complete device for the time". Comparable hardware to other entertainment systems.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago

I'm alright with the "provide a moderate amount of storage and space to upgrade it" method. Keeps the base price down, while power users can have what they want too.

I stuffed an extra 2TB SSD in my PS5 for just under £100. Now see Apple's iPad Pro pricing, where going from 128GB to 2TB adds a whopping £1250 to it, more than doubling the price.

[–] MeaanBeaan@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Where did you find a 2tb micro SD card? I didn't think they existed.

[–] szczuroarturo@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

Yeach 32gb on switch was a joke. And they really didint need to add that much storage to make purchase of sd card unnessesary. I have 128gb sd card on my switch and thats more than enough space for switch games( kinda helps that switch is my Indie machine and they dont exatcly weight a ton, so i would still recomend 256 at least for normal use)

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 8 points 1 year ago

If they fix joycon drift and use the buttons they used on switch lite I'll be happy. The joycon buttons stab into my fingers.

[–] Default_Defect@midwest.social 7 points 1 year ago

Make it similar enough under the hood to the switch that ryujinx just need an update to play its games.

I mean, hey great!

[–] Javi_in_4k@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Wafzig@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Probably can't hit the price point or production yield to make it viable for launch.

Will probably see a version 2 after a year or so, like with Switch 1.

[–] Im28xwa@lemdro.id 6 points 1 year ago

Let's hope at least it gonna be a much higher quality LCD, maybe introduce VRR?

[–] EternalWarBear@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I could just be dumb, but I hope that it'll still use the switch cartridge. Like how they did it with the DS line up until the 3DS when they changed it. I could see them potentially doing that too. If it does I'll finally jailbreak my OG switch with the tegra exploit. Just been too much of a scaredy cat to do it.

[–] Ogygus@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago
[–] Xylight@lemmy.xylight.dev 4 points 1 year ago

If it's 1080p then that's fine for me. An 8 inch 1080p LCD would at least slightly compare to a 720p OLED.

[–] varogen@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Will definitely be skipping this one. I almost never use my Switch as it is. At home, I use the PC. I can emulate single player games like Breath of the Wild. On the go, I've been enjoying mobile games on my phone (surprisingly) or I use my laptop. The Switch hasn't been a big draw.

[–] explodes@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are they going to make it simpler to deal with controllers so I can play remotely with my mom? It's so frustrating to try and talk her through reconfiguring her controllers over the phone.

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