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Worth noting that paying for a license for software doesn't stop it being spying malware either. In fact the pirate versions often take out the spying and the reporting-to-homebase that proprietary software does.
The photoshop that phones home to check a license is arguably more malicious than the pirate version that has been cracked so it doesn't do that.
Good and valid point. I use opensource software wherever I can.
Though paid software is not going to encrypt your data for ransom or use a keylogger to steal bitcoin (yet).
There was an antivirus that was caught running a bitcoin miner in the background tbf. If memory serves it was Norton?
Long story short.
Basically the same stuff you should be doing with all software.
Edit for firewall clarification.
I trust pirates more than billion or trillion dollar companies. Also, aggressive DRM such as iLok is worse than malware, so eh.
Fuck iLok. Shit made me regret buying plugins, should have stuck with piracy.
It's partly an honor system but also, anyone distributing malicious cracks are quickly called out whether its on public tracker comments like PirateBay or removed from private trackers.
Distributors of GOOD and CLEAN cracks often earn good rep in the community too, like Monkrus which I've had no issue with before.
Also, in my experience, installing a malware-packaged adobe app isn't actually all that bad if you run a malware scan immediately afterwards. With the scale and breadth of software piracy there isn't much money in making advanced malwares beyond bundling an existing one into an installer. I don't recommend it, but it's still easier and cheaper than paying Adobe!
TLDR the community polices itself pretty well considering.
Also, I would consider some legitimate licenced software more of a malware than a cracked one. If your software forces always-online license, comes with annoying startup processes, nagging ad screens, etc, it's malware. And if there's a cracked version without those things, I'll take the cracked version any day.
You're thinking too technical about this. This is a money thing. Personally speaking pirated software/games were chicken soup for my poverty ridden childhood.
If i were to pay for an AutoCAD license , it would be over 200$ A MONTH
What kind of cheap-ass, stripped down AutoDesk suite are you getting for $200/mo. Last I checked, the architectural suite was north of $4500/yr.
That's why I'm learning Blender, I think I'll be able to carry on without Maya.
Adobe isn't pretty but Autodesk is a scourge
I Love blender. I am also learning it but more because it works on linux unlike AutoCAD
If you get the software from reliable source, it is almost certain it does not have malware.
The piracy is an organized activity and people at higher rank nuke the release if it has malware.
Read more here https://opentrackers.org/i/2600_Guide_to_Internet_Piracy-TYDJ.txt
How come people are willing to download and install pirated software though?
You can just remove "priated" from that statement and come to the same conclusions. Considering the amount of bugs, backdoors and 0-day exploits distributed via official software I sometimes wonder why people execute proprietary, closed source programs at all.
An no, "reputable" companies mean nothing, just look at Microsoft clowning around with their signing keys.
i mean you could always sandbox it
Sandboxie-plus for the win! Saved my sanity several times.
really theres little reason to even use non-foss paid software....
I wish that was true
Based
There a reason if the alternative doesn't exist or isnt good enough.
Exactly. Piracy extends the commercial ecosystem. Every software pirate is a potential user and contributor of FOSS projects who is instead spending their time and talents working on/with commercial offerings.
To a distributor of commercial software, a pirate user is preferable to a user of a competing product. The competing user is already locked into the competition's product line; the pirate is expanding your own product line's market share.
Below the competing user is the FOSS user: it is much easier to monetize a pirate user who likes the system enough to steal it, or a competing user who has demonstrated they are willing to throw money at their problems. FOSS users aren't willing to tolerate all the artificial limitations imposed on the product to increase profitability.
I have no moral or ethical qualms with piracy as a general concept, but software piracy inherently promotes commercial alternatives at the expense of FOSS products. The only software I have pirated in decades has been rare, niche software for very specific uses.
I feel safe, maybe I shouldnt, but my life wouldnt be this good if I didnt have access to everything I cracked lol
If I get malware, I can just go reinstall my OS. If I pay for software, I'm never getting that money back.
If you notice the malware..
And have something worth loosing on gheir PC. Many professional software users using cracks may worry of losing their work files which could be easily backed up.
As long as they dont have their financials or personal information thats worth stealing, the cost saving of the pirated software is worth infection, which at max needs a fresh install.
Meh, how is surgery a thing? You let people just open you up and dig around your insides?
it's a mix of need and belief in a proper vetting process. For computers there's the additional layer that any one machine is probably low stakes. In early internet days most software was prohibitively expensive but gave you the equivalent of super powers - as a teenager / young adult with ability to take that risk you're not going to do it?
Well, I prefer to go the hospital with licensed personnel and not to ask some guy on the internet to perform surgery..
You severely underestimate the power of free stuff
when you dl from any seller site do you know what you get regarding spy/mal/bloatware? for sure?
i would not dl from usenet or a public tracker though.
I installed trusted cracks from scene groups. Not everyone who can crack will be a scene group. To get into the scene you need to be well trusted. Scene groups would NOT damage their integrity to install something malicious through a crack
As another user said, check the files you have match the direct uploads from the scene with a site like predb.me
You can search online for more info on scene groups/warez/topsites
It's one of those high-risk, high-returns case scenarios. You gamble. If you succeed, you will be saving some buck. Some software licences can be very, very expensive.
There is no way of knowing the answer to your questions. You just use your intuition and take a leap of faith.
You can always run software in a Virtual Machine to see if it's the real deal or not. Additionally, people really like to be "the first" or "the one" who actually provides something. See for example the first cracked Version of Read Dead Redemption 2 - it was announced like a special record (and it was!). Being the first to provide an actual, working copy brings fame, that's why people go to such lengths to crack and provide software. And the people who download it? Well, they can often rely on those with virtual machines testing the software and then on reviews and ratings available on the download sites.
Most don't invest that much into anti-piracy protection and you can avoid it with simple firewall and GPEdit corrections for the unlimited premium spoof.
There are also the key gens that emulates the server or the software to receive the codes or give a confirmation to the software.
This is all very oversimplified and there are an infinite number of anti-piracy methods that the companies don't even want to try to solve since it's all free advertising and it gets people used to their software when they have to buy it.
Make a dedicated user on your machine for pirated software. Never give that user root. Should contain it.
it is the same as any binary. you do not know what the author has baked it.
Well actually some pirated software usually works better than their retail version. https://yewtu.be/watch?v=DEP_7_gx6M8 https://community.adobe.com/t5/photoshop-ecosystem-discussions/pirate-verison-is-better/m-p/12557832 https://community.adobe.com/t5/photoshop-ecosystem-discussions/rant-i-hate-it-that-pirated-version-works-better-and-smoother-than-the-one-i-am-paying-for/td-p/12934822
Yeah checksums are useless. But if you know assembly, you could diff the original binary with the crack and look for anything malicious.