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[–] boredtortoise@lemm.ee 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's right winger propaganda that left would support Russia's aggressions

[–] adroidBalloon@lemmy.ml 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

you don’t have to look far (even around here) to find people calling themselves communists while rabidly defending Russia’s illegal invasion of Ukraine, for example, making some pretty ridiculous claims and praising Putin with a litany of logical fallacies. call them out, and suffer mass reporting, dogpiling, cross-community harassment, and bans. I believe they’re called “tankies”— self-proclaimed communists who are anything but.

the lemmygrad instance is almost nothing but this.

edit: I suspect that, in theory, they may like the idea of communism (they certainly like to espouse communist rhetoric), but they rush to defend authoritarian ideologues which doesn’t make sense-- especially when they pick sides with capitalist autocrats and dictators who are also war criminals.

[–] boredtortoise@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, they're the antithesis of communism or leftism but some definitely are fooled by them

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I know someone like that. He's an outspoken communist and sees anything anti west as inherently good. It's a very black and white world view.

He also thinks winning an argument just means outlasting the other person and shouting. I once observed him argue tabletop game mechanics or a half an hour before we realized he doesn't think removing cards from a deck changes the probability of getting one of the remaining cards. He can't hold down a job and ironically, he's in digital marketing.

[–] GnuLinuxDude@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 year ago (4 children)

This lack of self-awareness stands in stark contrast with European nations that decolonized and, although in fits and starts, today seek to atone for past injustices. In 2021, Germany formally apologized for genocide in Namibia in the early 1900s, while Queen Camilla declined to wear a crown at King Charles' coronation bearing the Kohinoor diamond, which Britain plundered when it ruled India.

This is too funny. Did Britain return the diamond? No. Did Germany pay reparations? No. But this is “stark contrast” to what Russia has done. Very hilarious. It’s actually incredible that the author couldn’t even cite real examples of voluntary decolonization from western powers, because it was always done by force from below. And sometimes even those who tried to overthrow their colonizers were financially punished like how Haiti was.

The article is filled with dumb ideas, half-truths, and revisionist history. Can’t take this seriously.

[–] OrnluWolfjarl@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 1 year ago

They apologized, so it's fine. The former colonizers can keep exploiting their former colonial subjects through economic, social and political strangleholds. If it's such a big problem they can just apologize again. This whole article is one big dump of projection.

[–] DonnieDarkmode@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

And sometimes even those who tried to overthrow their colonizers were financially punished like how Haiti was.

And just to bring it full circle, after the 2010 earthquake in Haiti there was a push for the French government to finally make reparations for what they did (to the tune of $28 billion). The French government said no

[–] BrooklynMan@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

because it was always done by force from below

European (especially British) decolonization of Africa was mostly the result of 1) the Atlantic Charter negotiated between FDR and Churchill after WWII when FDR told Churchill to stop that shit, and 2) because Europe’s devastated economy couldn’t afford to maintain their colonies abroad anymore anyway.

I wouldn’t say that Europe did any of this voluntarily, however. they were certainly forced by circumstance, highly pressured by the United States who threatened to withhold fund for post-war relief and rebuilding, and, obviously, mounting unrest in the colonies themselves.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago

speculating that blindness to Russian colonialism could be due to a failure of Western education systems as well as Soviet propaganda and leftist valorization of the Soviet Union as a foe of Western imperialism

lol they're still blaming the USSR for brainwashing us from the grave

[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wow the liberals must be actually afraid of Cornell west to be writing garbage pieces like this 'calling him out'.

[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

Who the hell is Alaric DeArment anyway? This is his only article on salon and afaict his only 'political' article. Most of his other journalism seems to be about the biotech industry which makes the original article here even weirder.

https://muckrack.com/alaric-dearment/articles

[–] zephyrvs@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

What a garbage article.