Libs really thought that they could promote genocide without any blowback.
this post was submitted on 19 Mar 2025
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You really showed them.
And the collateral damage is definitely worth it and not far worse than anything that would have occurred under literally any Democrat.
Who cares about the ecosystem and all those vulnerable Americans and Non-Americans who are going to suffer and die now on top of those who already were suffering and dying? What really matters is that the people in power who won't actually face any meaningful consequences from any of this lost.
Historical context - Germany, March 5, 1933:
On March 5, 1933, the government held an election for control of the Reichstag. The Nazis won 288 seats (43.9% of the vote). The Communists won 81 seats (12.3%), even though their representatives were unable to claim those seats—if they appeared in public, they faced immediate arrest. Other opposition parties also won significant numbers of seats. The Social Democrats captured 119 seats (18.3%), and the Catholic Center Party won 73 seats (11.2%). Together, the Communist, Social Democratic, and Catholic Center Parties won nearly as many seats as the Nazis. But their members distrusted one another almost as much as they feared the Nazis.
As a result, these parties were unable to mount a unified opposition to the Nazi Party.
Still under Nazi control, the Reichstag passed a new law on March 21, 1933, that made it a crime to speak out against the new government or criticize its leaders. Known as the Malicious Practices Act, the law made even the smallest expression of dissent a crime. Those who were accused of “gossiping” or “making fun” of government officials could be arrested and sent to prison or a concentration camp.
Then, on March 24, 1933, the Reichstag passed what became known as the Enabling Act by a vote of 141 to 94. It “enabled” the chancellor of Germany to punish anyone he considered an “enemy of the state.” The act allowed “laws passed by the government” to override the constitution. Only the 94 Social Democrats voted against the law. Most of the other deputies who opposed it were in hiding, in prison, or in exile.
That same day, Nazi leader Heinrich Himmler, then police commissioner for the city of Munich, held a news conference to announce the opening of the first concentration camp near Dachau, Germany. According to Himmler, the camp would have the capacity to hold 5,000 people, including Communist Party members and Social Democrats “who threaten the security of the state.” Himmler continued, according to a newspaper report:
Throughout the spring and early summer of 1933, the Nazis used the new laws to frighten and intimidate Germans. By May, they forced all trade labor unions to dissolve. Instead, workers could only belong to a Nazi-approved union called the German Labor Front.
Just change the names and you've got the news for the next year.
Both things can be true. Trump and his administration are trying to illegally and unconstitutionally undermine the Democratic left, and Democrats are also doing little in effect to protect themselves and their democracy, and what they do try alreasy gets undermined from within (see Schumer).
Why? They appear to be helpless anyway
The republicans were helpless themselves for like 30 years, they dont want a ressurgent democratic party in the future so they'll just dispense of it now while its in chaos
Surprised it's taken this long for them to get there.
The financial target in mind is obviously act blue. This will disproportionately affect progressives, and that's obviously the goal.
There's almost a bit of humor in the DNC refusing to run a true progressive because they feared they'd lose that sweet donor money, and now it's going to be taken away anyhow. When will people learn you can neither control nazis nor expect them to have any sort of moderation or decorum once they have power.
Liberal world, not progressive world.
And TBH, that's what they campaigned on.
Drain the swamp and all that.
It really is on their voters that can't distinguish fact from fiction.
"World" is doing a lot of heavy lifting here although much of "the free world" does benefit greatly from charities with strong ties to the Democrats.
But if we restrict "world" to mean "United States"? Yes, it is progressives. Because the DNC is dismissive and combative to progressives. Republicans are outright hostile. There is a reason that the biggest mainstream push we have seen to progressive politics was when Sanders finally stopped his primary bullshit and pseudo-joined the Democrats (seriously. Sanders trick to never run against anyone on the left was both hilarious AND assholish) and actually effective politicians like AOC joined up.
So... maybe stop focusing on stupid purity test bullshit and realize that progressive politics is also under very serious attack?
Ok, I know this is a very scary situation, very dangerous and will harm all… but maybe this could boost more progressives ( the actual left) vs centralists (liberals)?
Moderates have to use party funding as their majority source. They are business funded more so than the leftists.
Leftists are better using other methods which cannot be blocked as easily, and there is flexibility here. They are traditionally starved of funds by the party too, so often scrounge anyway and will feel less impact.
Also this could help promote third parties that are actually well intentioned and not used as spoilers to divide the vote in local politics
Promote third parties by... defunding everyone except the republicans?
I do fully agree this is the time for actual progressives to either take over the party or pivot to a new one en masse. But "They are attacking the liberals, not us" sure as hell ain't it.
Progressives organize grassroots better than moderates. Third parties do even more grassroots.
It’s beneficial to all should they start to get more exposure than liberals even if they loose elections; we, as a country, need new social grassroots to do anything real to get out of this mess here.
There is no political or violent solution right now. It’s only the new activism which will restore law
Progressives organize grassroots better than moderates
Citation requested. Because the big push for progressive politics in the past decade very much coincides with progressive voices getting boosted by liberal platforms.
There is no political or violent solution right now. It’s only the new activism which will restore law
Activism in a world where it is increasingly becoming a felony that gets you sent to gitmo to egg a tesla? And where all voices that aren't the republicans are actively being shut down in every venue?
I strongly encourage you to actually look outside and think through a plan rather than spewing the same tired nonsense that doesn't work. Democrats need to learn that begging conservatives to give them a hug doesn't do shit. And progressives need to learn that they need to get a voice.
Or you can keep sounding like a tankie accelerationist. Your choice.
The progressive candidates in the 2020 primary were pretty regularly the top fundraisers from small dollar donors and refused to do big money fundraisers. And they were often the top two total fundraisers.
Really? Then why didn't we have Bernie against trump?
Yes, there is a strong correlation between progressive (well... more populist but...) messaging and grass roots donations. Those are worth jack all against corporate interests and super PACs. And once you get past the state (arguably local) elections? They just can't compete.
We need grass roots support to convince people to actually get out to vote. We need dump trucks of money from the corporations salting the earth to make sure people know how to vote for.
I think you do not understand what I mean, or what successful activism can do. Also, interestingly there is not one Tesla in my small town . And I cannot afford eggs. So, I guess I am all out of ideas.
The other commenter here made the salient point about fund raising.
Actblue is used by every progressive.
Surely all he has to do is imprison George Soros?
Not a trump supporter in any way, but this could backfire on him (it probably won't but why risk it?) by giving the Dems ammunition against him and the Republicans. The Dems are destroying themselves just fine.
"Never interrupt your opponent while he is in the middle of making a mistake" - Sun Tzu.
And somehow it's the dems fault...
Yeah, this site is starting to get tiring (though I know that's the intention for most of these people). These people speak with such confidence despite clearly having no fucking clue what they're talking about. And that's me giving them the benefit of the doubt.
What's worse is that they use the horrific, genocidal shit that Israel is doing as a fucking political football. Every now and then they show that they do not actually care about any human, let alone Palestinians. But they'll pretend to care if it means they can shit on the Democratic party. It's so cringe.
And if you dare to call out their obvious bullshit, then that means you support genocide. It's fucking offensive.
Their only move is to straw man.
Yes, collaborating with genocide and fascism is never a good move.
If we had a legitimate resistance organization, we might have some hope. Unfortunately the dems have been working hard with their fellow right-wingers to attack any actual leftists.
Cowards