What the F@#K happened!?!
Someone dropped off a briefcase fulla Trump coins and Schumer magically did a 180.
this post was submitted on 19 Mar 2025
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It was always a charade, they just don't feel like they have to keep it up anymore.
Can we start using "Vichy" to describe any Democrats who collaborate with the fascists?
Jon Stewart slammed Vichy Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer...
Stewart argued Vichy Democrats avoid proposing real alternatives by pretending Republicans will compromise.
im okay just calling it the vichy party now.
I don't believe it applies to the entire party. There were Democrats (mostly in the House) who are actually opposing the fascists. The problem is that none of them are in leadership and the Vichy leadership is actively fighting the few Democrats who are trying to oppose the fascists rather than fighting the fascists.
You folks in the US literally need to Nuke all your parties and start up from scratch...
Maybe throw in a labour party for measure
and there were people in vichy france who opposed the nazis. there were people in germany, even!
they're rare. the vichy party's mouth is closed around fascist cock.
"Quisling" is another good one
I feel like neither of these are good. Like if I called you a troglodyte. Do you really care. It almost makes me look dumber for not having the social awareness to make a decent burn. Remember you're trying to find something that makes them mad, not something that lubes up the dicks of the lefty beside you. Both is preferred but at a minimum you need something that actually gets their attention. Anything that anyone needs context or prior information is not good. Look at every single one the republicans used. Everybody understood it immediately. Some were legit catchy like Reeeeeeeeeeeeee super effective.
Calling anyone a Rosenstrasse or Reichsdeutsch is just head up our own asses level of stupidity. It lacks any kind of punch. Avoid 10 cent words. Use stuff that a grade 3 student would understand.
I second this.
The real takeaway is that the country is burning and our politicians are yucking it up together in a gym. We're 100% in the ivory tower phase. They are removed from it therefore they don't care enough to do anything but the same old same old.
We need to bring the issues to them in creative ways so that they feel the "impact" of our anger.
Feel free to lead by example.
It's a uniparty and it's not there to help you, prole.
I think there are actual elected Democrats who want to oppose the fascists. Look at Bernie, AOC, Crockett, even Pritzker and Walz. Hell, even Seth fucking Moulton and Nancy fucking Pelosi criticized Vichy Schumer over his collaboration and capitulation.
The problem is the Democrats, at the national level, are all led by the Vichy caucus of the party. Schumer, Jeffries, Newsom, etc who actually agree with the fascists on a number of issues.
We can't write off everyone elected with a (D) next to their name. History has shown us time and time again that the only thing that has ever defeated a powerful fascists movement is a popular front of leftists and liberals working together. We need to eliminate the Vichy wing of the Democratic Party. I'm not going to pretend like I know how to do that, but we're never going to defeat the fascists if we keep lumping everyone in with the collaborationists. That just fractures our side and strengthens theirs.
And electoral politics can't be the only thing we do. It's one tactic, but it's not the only or even most important one. Most importantly, we need to build connections and networks within our communities so that we can support each other against the fascists. We need to establish the relationships now so that when the fascists come for the marginalized in our community people (especially those less engaged with politics) are more willing to side with the victims of the fascists who they've come to know against the power structures.
I think there are actual elected Democrats who want to oppose the fascists
Starts the list with someone who isn't a Democrat
Here's a notarized letter signed by Bernie affirming he is, in fact, a Democrat.
Here's a notarized letter signed by Bernie affirming he is, in fact, a Democrat.
As of 2019, should he run for president. As of 2024, the paperwork for his election as a senator said Independent
And he's also repeatedly made statements that he runs as an independent in Vermont because he promised his constituents he would always do so in his first Congressional race. But he's also said that he considers himself a Democrat, and the party also clearly considers him one seeing as they put him in Senatorial party leadership and gave him chair (when they had the Majority) of one of the most powerful Senate committees: the Senate Budget Committee.
*Registered Independent, but alligns with Democrats
Unless you're fine with admitting a ton of "Democrats" are actually Republicans, despite alligning with Dems.
Yes, a ton of democrats are actually republicans.
The letter pretty clearly says "I am a member of the Democrat Party".
Show me a letter from Vichy Democrats that says "I am a member of the Republican Party." Show me where Republicans put any Democrat in Senate leadership or gave them chair of a Committee.
*Registered Independent
Democrats sign bills every day saying they are siding with the Republicans and agree with their policies.
That is an incredibly dumb argument. Every single Republican in office has also signed onto bills aligned with Democratic policies. That's just how a multi-party legislature works.
Highly paid, neo-liberal consultants that lost them multiple elections told Democratic leadership to become more Republican and that's just what the Democratic leadership did by voting with Republicans.
It's almost like they'd rather continue to talk to consultants than their own constituents post-Hilary and when your ideas are only to position yourself against the other guy, well you don't have very many ideas at all. At least you still get to feel morally superior and continue building your own careerist resume. Democratic leadership don't care about anyone but themselves and it shows. These people don't work for you.
told Vichy Democrats~~ic leadership~~ to become more Republican
FTFY!
Politicians kept those fucks on
Jon Stewart slammed
I mean, this was actually on-point. it was pretty vicious, and deservedly so.
Jon Stewart Knocks Dems' Lack of Vision In Countering The Trump Agenda | The Daily Show
sorry for the YouTube link, could not find it elsewhere.
edit: CW - animated intense mortal kombat violence at the very, very end of the video. the daily show was not playing around on this one.
Thanks for the link. Well worth the watch.
so when do we start calling them "schumer" cocktails?
Cucktails oooh ooooh!
I am tired of this doofus