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Jon Stewart slammed Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer for supporting a GOP funding bill after initially opposing it.

On The Daily Show, Stewart mocked Schumer for surrendering leverage without gaining anything in return, joking that he “got some cheese.”

He criticized Schumer’s strategy of waiting for Trump’s popularity to drop, calling it delusional.

Stewart argued Democrats avoid proposing real alternatives by pretending Republicans will compromise. He warned their approval rating is dangerously low, making their approach politically ineffective and out of touch.

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[–] vvilld@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think there are actual elected Democrats who want to oppose the fascists. Look at Bernie, AOC, Crockett, even Pritzker and Walz. Hell, even Seth fucking Moulton and Nancy fucking Pelosi criticized Vichy Schumer over his collaboration and capitulation.

The problem is the Democrats, at the national level, are all led by the Vichy caucus of the party. Schumer, Jeffries, Newsom, etc who actually agree with the fascists on a number of issues.

We can't write off everyone elected with a (D) next to their name. History has shown us time and time again that the only thing that has ever defeated a powerful fascists movement is a popular front of leftists and liberals working together. We need to eliminate the Vichy wing of the Democratic Party. I'm not going to pretend like I know how to do that, but we're never going to defeat the fascists if we keep lumping everyone in with the collaborationists. That just fractures our side and strengthens theirs.

And electoral politics can't be the only thing we do. It's one tactic, but it's not the only or even most important one. Most importantly, we need to build connections and networks within our communities so that we can support each other against the fascists. We need to establish the relationships now so that when the fascists come for the marginalized in our community people (especially those less engaged with politics) are more willing to side with the victims of the fascists who they've come to know against the power structures.

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I think there are actual elected Democrats who want to oppose the fascists

Starts the list with someone who isn't a Democrat

[–] vvilld@lemmy.world 11 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Here's a notarized letter signed by Bernie affirming he is, in fact, a Democrat.

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 4 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Here's a notarized letter signed by Bernie affirming he is, in fact, a Democrat.

As of 2019, should he run for president. As of 2024, the paperwork for his election as a senator said Independent

[–] vvilld@lemmy.world 7 points 21 hours ago

And he's also repeatedly made statements that he runs as an independent in Vermont because he promised his constituents he would always do so in his first Congressional race. But he's also said that he considers himself a Democrat, and the party also clearly considers him one seeing as they put him in Senatorial party leadership and gave him chair (when they had the Majority) of one of the most powerful Senate committees: the Senate Budget Committee.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world -1 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (2 children)

*Registered Independent, but alligns with Democrats

Unless you're fine with admitting a ton of "Democrats" are actually Republicans, despite alligning with Dems.

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 4 points 15 hours ago

Yes, a ton of democrats are actually republicans.

[–] vvilld@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

The letter pretty clearly says "I am a member of the Democrat Party".

Show me a letter from Vichy Democrats that says "I am a member of the Republican Party." Show me where Republicans put any Democrat in Senate leadership or gave them chair of a Committee.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world -1 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

*Registered Independent

Democrats sign bills every day saying they are siding with the Republicans and agree with their policies.

[–] vvilld@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago

That is an incredibly dumb argument. Every single Republican in office has also signed onto bills aligned with Democratic policies. That's just how a multi-party legislature works.