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A federal judge criticized a Trump administration Justice Department lawyer who claimed they didn't have to follow the judge's oral order blocking deportations to El Salvador because it wasn't in writing.

Judge Boasberg questioned why the administration ignored his directive to return immigrants to the US. The DOJ lawyer repeatedly refused to provide information about the deportations, citing "national security concerns."

Frustrated, Boasberg ordered sworn declarations explaining what happened, quipping that he would issue a written order "since apparently my verbal orders don't seem to carry much weight."

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[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

Oh snap he GRILLED him!?!? Damn! Trump is going down!!! #RESIST

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[–] Tiger666@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 hours ago
[–] stopforgettingit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

'You felt you could disregard it?'

Narrator: He did.

[–] quack@lemmy.zip 3 points 6 hours ago

Are we still pretending this matters anymore?

[–] ansiz@lemmy.world 7 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Correct me if I'm wrong but what could the judge even do to these DoJ staff? Throw them in jail for a few days? Trump would just pardon them, wouldn't he?

[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Public/private reprimand is the first step I think. The judge could also probably suspend their license, or possibly influence their getting disbarred if the lawyer fucks up enough. Probably couldn't throw them in jail unless they were accused of a crime, but that would only be pardonable if it was a federal crime.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago

I’m sure they’ll cry “partisanship”, but put them in jail if relevant. I imagine at least some will be dissuaded by charges and prison even if they can count on a pardon. At least some will be kept out of politics after our four years of hell, even if they can count on a pardon. Even in the very worst case scenario where they get away with everything, legitimate charges will help cement the legacy as the most corrupt president ever.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 22 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Frustrated, Boasberg ordered sworn declarations explaining what happened, quipping that he would issue a written order "since apparently my verbal orders don't seem to carry much weight."

Written orders probably won't carry any weight either since he probably can't read even if he attempted to.

I'm waiting for people to connect the dots around my town. People's rights begin with legislation and end with judicial decision. Being that the bill of rights is being overridden by the executive branch right now, judges have said so and the executive branch is saying they don't care, it is fairly obvious the bill of rights no longer matters. So pick any amendment you like from the bill or rights, free speech, free press... Right the bear arms. Yup, gone. The conservatives nullified the right to bear arms and is cheering for it. By the time they think they should speak out about it, well they'll maybe realize they already cheered for the loss of their freedom of speech. Oops

[–] collapse_already@lemmy.ml 52 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Show cause why I shouldn't throw your ass in the klink. That's what happens to the rest of us if we ignore a court order.

[–] blakenong@lemmings.world 20 points 19 hours ago (16 children)

He can’t be charged with a crime while in office or for anything he does in office. So, that’s why.

[–] melpomenesclevage@lemmy.dbzer0.com 37 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (2 children)

so arrest everyone in the department that did it. EVERYONE. secretary of [thing], and everyone who might have so much as seen the command moving down the chain.

that's what a law that wasn't just an excuse to punish poor people would do.

or just fucking arrest him anyway, fuck it, if laws don't mean things, laws don't mean things. that includes his special protection.

but again, that would require the point of the law to be something other than punishing the poor.

[–] blakenong@lemmings.world 11 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I don’t disagree with you, but I think we both know how this will play out. Get ready to hide in the attic.

[–] melpomenesclevage@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 18 hours ago (9 children)

yeah. fuck my life. taking bets on how long I last before they kill me. ill have betting tables up in the morning.

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[–] pixelpure@lemm.ee 7 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

The more they let them act without any consequences for their actions shows us that the constitution means nothing nowadays. Throw him or the enablers in jail, but doing nothing means checks and balances are useless. I fear for the regular people. Power has gone to the fascists and oligarchs.

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[–] phx@lemmy.ca 12 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

And the "just following orders" folks?

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[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 83 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

He shouldn't be letting those attorneys leave the courtroom free men. Hold them in contempt and issue bench warrants for administration officials and anyone carrying out these illegal orders.

[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 58 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

This is the only correct response, any other response means that the federal government does not in practice have checks and balances

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 43 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

It also forces Trump's hand. Either publicly reveal, right now that he is an all-out dictator instead of slow-rolling it, or fold and lose any momentum he has.

If a violent revolution is needed to take him down, the sooner everyone knows about it, the better.

[–] RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com 14 points 20 hours ago

Yeah, slow nibbling at fascism is how the world got Hitler. Out the despot now.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 32 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (2 children)

So just to be clear, this is within the domain of “constitutional crisis” that the vast majority of Americans who graduated from high school will have certainly been taught about at some point. But precisely zero major news networks or newspapers are calling it as such.

Evidently a comically dismaying proportion of us unitedstatesians need to be told when our own fucking house is on fire. And even then, 30ish% of us will deny it as the flesh melts off their own bones.

[–] Zzyzx@lemmy.blahaj.zone 76 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The US is in a constitutional crisis with situations like this, and so many people just don't seem to care or want to acknowledge that it's at that point.

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[–] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 50 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A federal judge criticized a Trump administration Justice Department lawyer

If this is the only consequence of having done it- I’d say they didn’t think they could, they knew they could.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Note Rubio saying they aren't going to stop, when explicitly told to by a judge. That's called sedition last I knew.

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[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 222 points 1 day ago (22 children)

Throw. That. Lawyer. In. PRISON. There may be no way to enforce the law on Trump himself, but make lawyers afraid to do his dirty work.

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[–] foggy@lemmy.world 174 points 1 day ago

He didn't feel he could disregard it.

He successfully disregarded it.

[–] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 76 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (8 children)

'You felt you could disregard it?'

Well, given that they disregarded it and are now standing before you arguing that they had the right to disregard it, I think it's safe to say that yes, they felt they could disregard it. And given that the migrants were deported anyway, your orders were not only completely ignored, but were also being openly mocked on Twitter by Marco Rubio, and they will receive no punishment for doing so, I think it's safe to say that they were right.

Frustrated, Boasberg ordered sworn declarations explaining what happened, quipping that he would issue a written order “since apparently my verbal orders don’t seem to carry much weight.”

He's about to find out that his written orders carry even less. Remember, the Supreme Court ruled that he can't even be questioned about official acts, much less investigated. Trump could go on his Twitter knock-off tomorrow and tell this guy to go fuck himself with a chainsaw and there's fuck-all this judge can do about it.

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