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Trump’s border czar, Tom Homan, admitted that finding undocumented immigrants with criminal records has been difficult, requiring full ICE teams for field raids.

Arrest numbers, around 14,000 in Trump’s first month, are below the administration’s 1,500-per-day goal.

Homan blamed sanctuary cities for not cooperating with federal immigration enforcement. He vowed to increase enforcement teams and denied mass school or church raids, though ICE may target specific criminals.

The administration has stopped publishing daily arrest figures, despite a drop in immigration arrests since November.

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[–] Gointhefridge@lemm.ee 51 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Maybe cause the "crisis" was over inflated to begin with? Also cause people generally don't like this idea in practice.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Don't you love it for your lunch break in the local quick serving restaurant to be interrupted by armed men yelling at everyone and then you get to go back to work distressed and hungry?

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I remember seeing recently that they found 3 of the names who got sent to Guantanamo. 2 of the families they found and asked and both said they presented papers from their embassy showing their family members weren't criminals.

The number of people who are going to be sent to fill quotas over actually having ever done something horrible is going to be staggering

[–] Gointhefridge@lemm.ee 2 points 3 weeks ago

Sooooo just like the regular US Prison system.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 34 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

"Well, we'll just have to scoop up random brown people, I guess. Gotta keep those numbers up."

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 16 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Australis13@fedia.io 7 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I wonder how long before that actually happens - weeks or months?

[–] superkret@feddit.org 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It's been happening for years

[–] GrundlButter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

And recently in some communities, ICE agents are going door to door and molesting people at schools and churches.

[–] Placebonickname@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Not sure about molesting, but once in Arizona I was jogging and took a turn through a hilly golf area and someone called the cops. Was not carrying an ID and had to wait for someone from Davis Monthan AFB to vouch for me before I could be released.

[–] GrundlButter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I'm definitely using the term broadly, it doesn't always mean to sexually assault, basically they're just being fucked with for simply existing or going to church or school. That being said, I wouldn't put it past them if given the opportunity, ICE is at least that morally bankrupt.

Sorry to hear that you got fucked with for daring to go near "the white land", they're pieces of shit like that.

Gotta ask, it sounds like you are a veteran or family of one. Did they even change their attitude towards you once they knew? Or did they get mad because you ruined their fun?

[–] Placebonickname@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

Well no, there attitude did not change on the grounds that you can serve, but that doesn’t make you a citizen, so they did not know what to do - Stop and Frisk was used to stop “non citizens”… but they also didn’t know that South Korea wasn’t part of South America so I’m not dealing with the most cultured people here.

[–] MuskyMelon@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

ICE have been brownshirts-in-reserve from the very beginning.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It has been happening. My Eastern European friends don't go anywhere without their passports right now and my Latin American friends have shifted all their behaviors. You don't need to wonder if it will be weeks or months, you need to be wondering how long ago it started

[–] Australis13@fedia.io 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Ugh, I'm sorry to hear that. I don't live in the US, so I have not seen this.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 3 points 3 weeks ago

Well for the Latin American friends it started in the Bush W admin, and for the Eastern European friends it's a new wrinkle that started when we put a kremlin puppet in the oval office. One of those friends is even a US Citizen who worries about being made stateless if ICE decides to deport her while she's out and about. With any crisis anywhere else, always assume the crisis is worse than you can see because the people it's happening to aren't able to speak on it because they're desperately trying to survive

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 2 points 3 weeks ago

Thats how most police departments in white countries prop up their numbers. You are short on your quota? just go to the train / long distance bus station and frisk everyone who looks like his ancestors were born south of the alps.

[–] randon31415@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago

ICE: Fixed number of people.

Biden: "Focus on the places that want to work with you, like Texas."

Trump: "Focus on sanctuary cities and places that will resist deportation at all costs."

Deportation numbers: Goes down.

Trump: "I don't understand what went wrong?"

ICE: "If we stop publishing numbers, COVID is over! Er, I mean, all the immigrants are gone!"

[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I hate the use of the word czar in this context, my pedantic historian brain knows it means “Caesar” and the meaning makes no sense

[–] RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 3 weeks ago

And it being the Russian version doesn't make it better.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Best thing is the UK and US anti drug commissioner being called the "drug czar"

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 1 points 3 weeks ago

So basically it means asshole

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

You know, normal, thoughtful, people would take that as a cue to re-evaluate their position... Maybe it's difficult to find them because they don't fucking exist?

[–] brygphilomena@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They are a scape goat. It doesn't matter if they exist or not if they can sell the narrative.

Crime could be at record lows but they'll say "Crime is so high, we need to send in police until crime comes down."

They know full well it's a lie, but they know enough people won't double check them and take them at their word. In their minds crime is at an all time high instead.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I commented the gun numbers the other day. Its fairly obvious that red states have much more violent crime when it comes to guns. Surely their propoganda doesn't have anything to do with it.

Edit: Deaths per 100,000 people by gunshots

Mississippi 29.4 Louisiana 28.1 Alabama 25.7 New Mexico 25.3 Alaska 23.6 Tennessee 22.2 Arkansas 22 Montana 21.7 Wyoming 21.6 Missouri 21.4 Oklahoma 20.1 South Carolina 19.3 Georgia 18.8 Arizona 18.7 Nevada 18.5 Indiana 18.4 Kentucky 18.4 Idaho 18.2 West Virginia 16.8 Colorado 16.7 North Carolina 16.7 Kansas 16.3 Texas 15.1 Ohio 15 Utah 15 Maine 14.1 Oregon 14.1 Florida 13.9 Virginia 13.9 Michigan 13.8 Pennsylvania 13.6 Illinois 13.5 Washington 13.1 North Dakota 12.9 Wisconsin 12.7 South Dakota 12.5 Maryland 12.3 Vermont 12.1 Delaware 12.1 Nebraska 10.7 Iowa 10.6 New Hampshire 9.7 Minnesota 9 California 8 Connecticut 6.2 Hawaii 4.9 Rhode Island 4.8 New York 4.7 New Jersey 4.6 Massachusetts 3.7

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 weeks ago

That's never been an issue for the MAGA people. See also: trans people being any kind of problem to anyone.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

We've all seen this movie before.

The next line starts with "then they came for"

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They keep finding brown citizens instead.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 weeks ago

Which was implied

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 3 weeks ago

"Man I'm having a hard time finding the ~~Jews~~ Mexicans I volunteered to sign up to round up. Was I swindled into obeying a fascist state? Nah, must be the Mexicans who are sneaky, they can cloak!"

[–] trag468@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

A quick google suggests that there are over 400k non-citizens with criminal convictions in the US. Even with such a large number it seems like it would be really hard to locate and apprehend 1,500 of them each day. It's not like ICE wasn't trying before! It's just more ridiculous theatrics. I feel bad for all the normal immigrant families that are living in fear because of this nonsense.

[–] Willy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago

I mean, theoretically the change would be that they would just grab people that were undocumented from the courthouse, right? It’s not like ice is full real government agency. It’s only been around for like 15 years

[–] Dimmer@leminal.space 7 points 3 weeks ago

Daily arrest is a KPI to be gamed soon, rich MAGA people, who profits on this narrative, can just pay Mexico gangs to send some people in to get arrested.

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 6 points 3 weeks ago

What's border czar doing in metropolitan areas? The border is all way over there in the south.

[–] LuxSpark@lemmy.cafe 4 points 3 weeks ago

It's almost like a non-issue.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Anyone got a guide on, like, how to modify modern houses to build secret rooms to hide people?

I hate to say this, but I guess well need to be hiding people in our houses to protect them from ICE like the Germans his Jews to protect them from the gestapo.

Better to start the construction now

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 3 points 3 weeks ago

Keep resisting. Protect your neighbors.

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 weeks ago

This read like the bomber gap that JFK went to win the election on, turns out there was a big bomber gap, but in the reverse...

[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 weeks ago

Well, if they were documented it would be easier….

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 weeks ago

What a colossal waste of resources.