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[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 28 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

You've heard about a Boeing suicide, no we have new age OpenAI suicide.

People love mocking Russians when their "leaders" fall out of windows, but where are these people when corpos kill plebs within US?

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

As someone living in Russia, we don't do this window joke. We joke about sugar in Ryazan (aka Putin blows up houses), we joke about 146%, we joke about poisoned tea.

There's also been a story of a group of anarchists trying to build some kind of an organization and reproducing "Lord of the Flies" in process, resulting in murders of two of them and the rest trying to cover it up, it's still not certain that the one who came clear is in fact the murderer ; interesting that those murders were the only thing to interest law enforcement until a few years later, when the group as a whole formally not breaking any laws stopped being a hindrance. Point being - there are sometimes suspicions that groups like this are often intentionally created by FSB agents or whatever, to attract people likely to feel this way.

And when I was reading about where the window joke comes from, it's about a couple of scientists falling out of windows about the same time. I suppose with the defense-related (and in general strategic projects) corruption there could be some principled positions leading to murders covered up as suicides.

[–] daddy32@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Weren't there two boing suicides? Or the second one was something more creative, I think.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 1 points 3 weeks ago

Second one had enough plausible deniability to permit neo lib regime whores to label it as a "conspiracy theory"

They will pretend that the first one did not happen or that it was a fluke in the system of "democracy"

[–] Captainautism@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 3 weeks ago

Can someone fill me in on the missing info here…

How is it that Zuck has been busted (basically) for training his ai on 80TB of pirated materials via torrents and it seems to be getting swept under the rug, yet this poor guy points out Sam Altman doing the same and he’s suicided?

[–] singletona@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

.....Yea I'm not buying it.

[–] ExtravagantEnzyme@lemm.ee 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yep, he definitely got suicided. It without question was a staged murder setup to lead investigators to deem it as such...

[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 7 points 3 weeks ago

And American cops are all too happy to take one less murder case if there’s any room to say it was a suicide. They’re not looking to add unsolved murders, especially ones that implicate he most powerful companies and men in the world.

[–] Elgenzay@lemmy.ml 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Balaji's parents claim to have evidence from their independent investigation, such as ballistic evidence from the private autopsy, which they claim shows a downwards bullet travel path that would be impossible by a self-administered gunshot. Balaji's parents also claim that a tuft of wig hair found at the scene that did not belong to Suchir represents unexplained evidence.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suchir_Balaji#Skepticism_and_calls_for_further_investigation

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 weeks ago

Also, the fact that he had the balls to blow the whistle seems to imply that he had no intention of ending his life before he could actually follow through.

This shit is just so obvious.

[–] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 13 points 3 weeks ago

How many times did he shoot himself?

I mean there is a pattern to these things.
If Putin doesn't like you, you shoot yourself and then jump out of a building.
If the Clintons don't like you, you shoot yourself twice in the back of the head before driving your car off a cliff.
If you have dirt on powerful people, you hang yourself in prison.

[–] SilentKnightOwl@slrpnk.net 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Why does the news increasingly sound like the lore of Cyberpunk 2077?

[–] daddy32@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

...but without the fucking cool stuff.

[–] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

Give it 52 years and we'll have more cool stuff, plus 300% more ads.

[–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

We got some of it, its just that killer drones and SI aren't as cool on this side of the screen, and the cyberware is only for rich people (though there is a growing 3D printed movement for amputees) That said with some craft skills we can at least make the cool punk armor and kneepads and have it be reasonably functional, even deploy a blade if you're ambitious, though more predator than mantis in that regard.

Be the change you want to see.

[–] not_that_guy05@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

America's version of fell out the window

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 4 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Sir, this is a "Democracy"

[–] TrueStoryBob@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

Democracy©®™

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[–] PlainSimpleGarak@lemmings.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

This is Democracy Manifest.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago

We are definitely receiving limp penis.

[–] thisphuckinguy@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago
[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 3 weeks ago

Kinda like when all those whistle-blowers in Russia accidently fall out the window.

[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 6 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

if you plan to whistleblow something, always plan it thoroughly so you cant be silenced by being murdered.

[–] Hazor@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

And make it abundantly clear to everyone that you're not suicidal. Record videos with date stamps. Send date stamped letters by mail to friends, with instructions to retain the letters indefinitely, and perhaps which are clearly marked "to be opened in the event of my death". The letters should say something along the lines of "I am not suicidal. I do not want to die. I am not going to kill myself under any circumstances. If I die, it was not by suicide. I want to live. I have ABC reasons to live. I have XYZ plans for the future." Etc.

Keep multiple copies of the information in multiple locations, and make sure multiple people know where a copy is. Ideally, have a dead-man's switch set up, or someone you trust to do it, to automatically send all the information to all the major news outlets if you do turn up dead, along with a statement akin to the letter outlined above to make it clear you were murdered.

[–] needthosepylons@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm not sure it's in those exact terms, but I think there were a few cases with high levels of preparation. Ended up being ruled as suicides anyway by the courts and the media. Not saying they'll always win, though. But their idealogical power is not to underestimate.

A minister in my country was deemed to have committed suicide by drowning in a 50cm body of water. Strangely enough, all witnesses have committed suicide too just before being heard by the courts.

And it worked. Everybody know it wasn't a suicide, but it changes nothing for those responsible of the murder.

[–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Didn't the boeing guy pretty explicitly state that he was not suicidal to family and friends right before he died?

[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They think we are so fucking stupid, don't they?

[–] adm@lemm.ee 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They don't care. If there is no immediate and severe punishment for it then it doesn't matter if we 'know.' In 10 years the only line will be the official one and we'll just look like conspiracy theorists with half remembered facts. They dont think you're stupid, they know they'll get aways with it and they don't think about you at all.

[–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 weeks ago

I don't think that's it at all. Wealth and power makes people stupid, and in order to keep believing in their own superior status, they have to believe we are stupider than them, which is very stupid indeed.

Like it or not, even "monsters" have to have a model of the world and a theory of mind in order to operate. If they didn't think about us, they wouldn't be able to exploit us. If they didn't treat us with contempt, they wouldn't be able to exploit us. So, contemptuous consideration it is.

It's just that is a poor model of reality, so it's going to be part of their downfall. They are going to keep treating us as idiots until we surprise them by suddenly not acting the part anymore. These abuses are clear and they are piling up. We remember the panama papers and what happened to those journalists. We remember what happened to Snowden, Manning and Assange. This has an undermining effect on the legitimacy of the system.

You don't see the termites until the house is already falling down around you.

[–] unconfirmedsourcesDOTgov@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

It's a great idea, though in practice I fear you'd seem like Snowden and everyone would eventually coalesce around the idea that you're a traitor because you didn't get assassinated or put into a dark hole to be forgotten.

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[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The point is like Russian point. It isn't just to silence you so trouble goes away that the whistle-blower was involved with. It's to silence other potential whistle-blowers. It's too send a message.

[–] Bacano@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah I read somewhere that, in Russian culture, the more absurd the cover up story the more insulting it is meant to be for the victim.

Like if someone "shot themselves 3 times in the back of the head then fell out of a window". Maybe Epstein fits into that too

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

Devs was a fun show.

[–] misterdoctor@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

Indeed, Balaji’s death — of a self-inflicted gunshot, per the San Francisco County Medical Examiner’s report — had become a focal point in debates over AI ethics, corporate accountability, and the dangers faced by whistleblowers in Silicon Valley. Whether these things become disentangled now remains to be seen.

Bet they don’t

Yeah, you just threatened a $600 billion a year industry and no one murdered you.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Yeah, everyone knows that people who have the courage to blow the whistle when they see awful shit, are likely to kill themselves before they can share that information with anyone... Makes complete sense.

[–] Captainautism@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Alright... is there something I don't know. I was not aware that Aaron Swartz' death was a Boeing suicide.

[–] Captainautism@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Very similar story to the guy above. I mean, very similar!

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 weeks ago

Except Aaron was being prosecuted for pirating open scientific papers. He was being heavily pressured by the FBI and was facing serious fines and jail time.

It’s less surprising that he took his own life in that situation. I know less about the OpenAI whistleblower, but it seems much more suspicious from here.

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 1 points 3 weeks ago

Suuuuure it was.

[–] Poppa_Mo@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I'll throw a wild one out there. OpenAI didn't do it. Maybe Elon is in on this one. Makes OpenAI look shady after their recent rebuff of his shit and gives the media something else to chew on while he's dismantling our government with the cheeto emperor.

[–] NoForwardslashS@sopuli.xyz 1 points 3 weeks ago

Or is it exactly the reason Sam Altman was ready to line up for the inauguration with bribe in hand?

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Just America things

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Wow that must be pretty crazy to do this to yourself

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