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If you want to hang out or use the restroom at Starbucks, you’re going to have to buy something.

Starbucks on Monday said it was reversing a policy that invited everyone into its stores. A new code of conduct – which will be posted in all company-owned North American stores – also bans discrimination or harassment, consumption of outside alcohol, smoking, vaping, drug use and panhandling.

Starbucks spokesperson Jaci Anderson said the new rules are designed to help prioritize paying customers. Anderson said most other retailers already have similar rules.

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[–] ddash@lemmy.dbzer0.com 50 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Quick reminder that your local library probably does not follow those rules. Go hang out at your local library instead! Depending on location/country they might have a café too.

[–] workerONE@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago

I love going to the library to panhandle and smoke. Librarians don't mind, I always leave them a good tip.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

And libraries are not just about books. This is a thread I made about the new library branch my wife oversaw the design of opening:

https://lemmy.world/post/21386043

The reason conservatives hate libraries is because everything in them is free. Many (like my wife's library system) do not even charge late fees anymore.

Many modern libraries also offer a ton of digital lending including ebooks, audiobooks and even streaming movies and TV.

[–] Willy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Just curious, but do they still have due dates if not late fees?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They do. But basically it triggers a series of nagging emails which eventually result in a final one saying that you either return the book or pay for the book if you wish to continue using library services. If I remember correctly, that takes about nine months. And they don't charge some outrageous price for the book either, they just charge what it would cost to replace it. They might not even do that because they might not actually want to replace it, but my wife has never actually told me that. I imagine that's the case though because they're constantly weeding out books that no one has taken a look at in 20 years in order to make room for new books.

[–] Willy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Seems like a cool system but if your waiting for a copy of a new release they only have w5 copies of I can see not getting to read it for a very long time.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Most people are honest people. Especially people who use libraries. It's just not a big problem as far as I know.

Also, if you're going to a library to get a book, you probably don't want to keep the book.

[–] Screamium@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

My local library also offers a thermal camera rental! I've borrowed our several times, it's very useful!

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Nice! Having the free 3D printer access has been really useful for us on more than one occasion. We have no need to purchase one, but maybe once every six months, we might need to replace a part to something we can just 3D print and it's been great.

[–] 2ugly2live@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago

Hanging out in Libraries is free! I've gone in just for the AC.

[–] frunch@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago

"Hey, look at us--we're the new public hangout, everyone's invited"

Expands into an empire dotting the entire country

"Sorry poors--paying customers only, please."

Embrace, extend, extinguish all over again 🎉

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Targeting the growing homeless population. Don't let it confuse you for anything else.

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Exactly. Fascism was here but all the billionaires are putting out their flags now.

[–] lurklurk@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It's a café though... Isn't this normal for a café?

[–] Sylvartas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah. But now they don't have any advantages over other cafés. Except the fact that their coffees basically double as a rich snack I guess.

[–] Chessmasterrex@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

Meh, the last time I've been in one was 2011. Too expensive for what it is, and plenty of other options in my city.

[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

So what I'm hearing is people need to start pissing and shitting on the building itself.

[–] ArtVandelay@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)
Support
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Coffee
Shops

thanks.

[–] bcgm3@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

My fiancee got a Starbucks gift card from work, so we stopped by the one nearest us. The drive-through wrapped all the way around the building, so we went inside. Inside, there was only one huge table, with only one spot with an electrical outlet, and the music and cafe atmosphere were so loud... I can't imagine anybody trying to bring a laptop and "work" there.

But if I did, I guess I'd buy a coffee? That seems fair. I definitely prefer my local library for remote working outside of the house, though.