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His grand vision remains to leave Mastodon users in control of the social network, making their own decisions about what content is allowed or what appears in their timelines.

I don't use Mastadon cause I don't care for micro-blogging, but nevertheless, I like this.

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[–] Chozo@fedia.io 122 points 1 month ago (4 children)

While this is a good move, I don't think John Mastodon was making anywhere near the kind of money to turn into the next Musk or Zuck to begin with.

[–] NineMileTower@lemmy.world 64 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 36 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] TrueStoryBob@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Zhang Wei can change his name to whatever the fuck he wants he'll still ve Zhang Wei TikTok

[–] stinerman@midwest.social 36 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You can see exactly what he made in 2023. The report is available here.

€60k

[–] slampisko@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

I read that url as blog.johnmastodon.org and for a second I was seriously wondering if that name was real lol

[–] DudeImMacGyver@kbin.earth 30 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Not now, but in the future that was a possibility.

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[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 14 points 1 month ago

mass market media can only understand the world through the lens of mass market media

[–] Chee_Koala@lemmy.world 109 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I have recently been using it more to connect with others on a new subject, but now for the first time ever on the internet since early 00's, we are all owners of it ourselves. All the great new stuff was always owned by others and frankly I'm sick of it.

I never even liked twitter. Then I followed #nature and #bloomscrolling on mastodon for a while and my home feed was a feast of beautiful pics. So now there's one use for me for microblogging. Neat! Mastodon does what it says it does and even offers 'default' instances. I'd love for some GO's to help reach that donation goal quicker, so we can all get with the program and ditch corpo social media. -Why doesn't my library host it's own peertube?? #MakeLibrariesGreatAgain

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[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 35 points 1 month ago (2 children)

What does ceding control even mean? Mastodon, just like Lemmy, is federated - each instance has its own governance. It was never controlled by a single person to begin with.

He can cede control of the GitHub repository, I guess, but:

  1. That's giving the controls to the contributors, not the users.
  2. The article does not even hint at the existence of source code, and the announcement itself doesn't talk about changes in that aspect either, so I don't think that's what's happening here.
[–] stinerman@midwest.social 46 points 1 month ago

It was never controlled by a single person to begin with.

The computer program called Mastodon was (and still is for now) completely controlled by Eugen Rochko. In the future it will be controlled by a non-profit.

See this and this for more info.

[–] viking@infosec.pub 9 points 1 month ago

Someone is still in charge of the git account. No matter how many commits there are being made, unless the owner of the repo approves to merge them, it's not happening.

And sure, someone could create a fork that includes their changes if they aren't being merged, but then this separate fork might at some point lose compatibility with the original software. And on a purely semantic note, this fork wouldn't be the original mastodon either.

[–] TheOneAndOnly@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago (1 children)

152k to 1.5 milhouse is definitely an astronomical increase. Where does that number come from? For that matter...has he been funding all of this on his own up until this point?

[–] viking@infosec.pub 44 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I agree that 1.5 milhouse is quite a lot.

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 month ago

everything's coming up thrillho

[–] DudeImMacGyver@kbin.earth 24 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The Internet needs fewer Stalins and Hitlers and more George Washingtons.

[–] NineMileTower@lemmy.world 43 points 1 month ago (1 children)

More slave owners it is then!

[–] DudeImMacGyver@kbin.earth 39 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It is an imperfect system, but my comment was more about leaders not clinging to power to the detriment of society.

[–] NineMileTower@lemmy.world 30 points 1 month ago

I was just kidding. I understand what you meant. Monkey paw wish. Lol

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[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Yeah, it's refreshing to see someone not be an Absolute Dick™ on the internet for profit.

[–] Vincente@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Like it, like Bluesky too, uninstall Twitter after using these apps for several days.

Reject any app that has an forced automated recommendation system

[–] breakingcups@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago (13 children)

I do wonder what prevents BlueSky from going the way Twitter did, though.

[–] noxypaws@pawb.social 35 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Absolutely nothing. I fully expect it to follow a similar trajectory.

[–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

If lemmy ever catches on ^doubt it'll be a reddit fractal.

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[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Bluesky is still running on VC cash. We haven't seen how they plan on monetizing it yet, but if anything that is where their major fuckup will happen.

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[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 month ago

I mean it kinda already is a Twitter, just 5 years in the past.

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[–] sighofannoyance@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago (7 children)

Why is there this very loud chorus of people touting bluesky as alternative to twitter instead of the far superior Mastodon?

Bluesky you are basically swapping a tyrant against a benevolent dictator, that dictator can become corrupted or sell bluesky to Musk Elon later on.... That is not a solution that is more like procrastination.

[–] blind3rdeye@lemm.ee 11 points 1 month ago

bluesky has more funding for self-promotion.

[–] Dragon@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

It has more features, and most people don't know why Mastadon might be better. The average person doesn't even know what a server is.

[–] helvedeshunden@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Mastodon has far more features. What it doesn’t have is centralization.

[–] Dragon@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] helvedeshunden@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Lots of little things that add up. Some of the better include temporary muting, hashtags, and hashtag subscriptions. Plus it is resilient with no single point of failure.

[–] Dragon@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I'm pretty sure Bluesky has hashtags. Subscribing to a hashtag and muting someone temporarily is nice. I think the main feature Mastadon is missing is discovery algorithms. Most people use that heavily on social media, whether they admit they value it or not.

[–] helvedeshunden@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What is this, then? It’s on the front page of a Mastodon server before you log in and afterwards the discovery section with posts, hashtags, people etc. is on the search page after login. Bluesky was far harder to get a decent feed going on till people started building lists (and those are pretty flawed in that you only follow the individuals - not the list - so it doesn’t update for subscribers).

[–] Dragon@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago

Oh cool, I didn't realize they added that. I tried Mastadon a while ago and couldn't find anything interesting. I don't use any micro blogging apps.

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[–] seven_phone@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago

We should not expect greatness from the men who create these corporations, they are not great men, they are not even good or especially intelligent men. They fell into their position by luck, the one in a million triers for whom circumstance clicked into position. The only thing that sets them apart and perhaps accounts for their success is how they are so consistently open to sycophancy and manipulation by the pack of cold and savage business graduates that flock to any form of success. When a person is against type, as seemingly is the case here, they stand out and just once in a while are capable of real greatness.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Copy-pasting a comment from Aurich (Ars Staffer):

I set up the Ars Mastodon instance, and speaking as a relatively educated and technically savvy person I found it extremely confusing. And the more I learned later the more I don't feel remotely bad about being confused, it's honestly pretty messy.

I put Ars on the main instance, and I think it was the right call. We're not going to maintain our own, at least at this time, and trusting a random instance that's very difficult to vet is kinda sketchy.

We ran a guest editorial a while back that I think really clearly outlines the various issues:

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2023/06/op-ed-why-the-great-twittermigration-didnt-quite-pan-out/

But you know, it's really okay. It doesn't have to be big, or popular or mainstream. As long as it survives and people like it? That's good enough.

I think going into an era of balkanization of social isn't the worst thing.

One of my complaints with Mastodon and similars is that you can't search only for posts of a specific instance, or temporarily mute a single instance from your feed. There's also some sort of "invisible wall" for Pleroma users (niche of a niche), as their public posts simply don't show up in public Mastodon searches, though I don't know whether that's a problem with Mastodon or Pleroma.

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[–] CrimeDad@lemmy.crimedad.work 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The blog discussed progress on a "privacy-respecting search tool" that could be used to explore the entire Fediverse, a collection of independent social media networks that Mastodon connects to. That could make it possible to discover more content without depending on a "For You" algorithm mining user data.

Inshallah. Lack of search is my biggest gripe with Mastodon.

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[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago

Just like what happened with Ecosia. We need more humble people in the world!

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