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[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 92 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

As a long time Linux enjoyer, this is honestly the easiest way to get it into the mainstream. People have already seen the success of the steam deck which only reinforces that Linux can be used for gaming better than ever before. As long as people stop using Windows I'm here for it.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 35 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Eh, I don't really care if they stop using Windows, I care that they start using Linux. Dual boot if you need, but more market share for Linux increases the likelihood that devs will support Linux directly.

[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

For sure. I'm doing the dual boot life these days because as much as I want every game to work on Linux there are still some that don't. And some games just work better on Windows. But at the same time that's why more devs supporting Linux is what we wanna see.

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[–] Screen_Shatter@lemmy.world 78 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

I just installed Linux and holy shit it is so much easier and more straight forward than a windows install. Really wish I would have done it sooner.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 61 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

It's funny because while some of it has to do with work to make Linux desktops better, a non-trivial amount of it is how worse Microsoft has made it to deal with Windows.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 22 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Because Windows is a data-mining and advertising tool these days, more than anything. So they want to make sure you have a MS account on day 1 and that you have to opt out of all of their services 34 times over before they let you use the damn thing.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yep, and then have to opt out all over again the next week when an update decides you need to verify you really mean to opt out again...

And if you managed to not have an MS account when you installed, interrupt your login and say "you cannot proceed like you have been doing for the past year without adding an MS account now", and then look up how to get out of that dialog without doing the MS account...

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[–] endeavor@sopuli.xyz 14 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I had issues with drivers, like I would have to find them somewhere on the internet, trust a random stranger to download and install them. And even then some things required me to launch drivers manually every single time I wanted to use my hardware.

I had issues with games, constant crashes or some games flat out not working. Some even crashing the entire system occationally.

I had issues where my pc would randomly turn on. Going to sleep was funky and would break the system requiring restart. I had to find drivers for my audio systems to get them running.

I had to run around confusing settings and tweak them through different control panels made by random people that largely overlapped to fix basic issues.

Thankfully those issues were solved the moment I installed linux.

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[–] warmaster@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Which distro ? I've been rocking Bazzite for a year, and holy mother of christ, it requires less maintenance than my smartphone.

[–] towerful@programming.dev 10 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I've been rocking endeavourOS.
It's really nice, but I hear great things about bazzite. I'm going to have to take bazzite & steamOS for a spin

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[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 6 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah. Windows install and Linux install quietly switched which was the difficult shitty experience sometime when I wasn't watching.

[–] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 66 points 3 weeks ago (14 children)

As a Mac user I too want SteamOS to succeed, because it will indirectly result in more games that are compatible with macOS via game porting tools and wine.

Honestly windows is just annoying to deal with. I don’t like the ads, and I don’t like my start menu bar being reorganized. I run it in a VM and managing my install keys is a huge pain with their login system.

Linux is awesome, it’s neat watching its developer friendliness result in snowballing market share.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

If a SteamOS desktop system gets established, it would be time to add productive software to the ecosystem. Like a web browser, email, libreoffice, maybe some other tools. There are good free versions of all kinds of productivity software, and having them nicely packaged for a system like that would add a lot of value to the SteamOS driven family PC.

[–] jayandp@sh.itjust.works 25 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

FYI, if you switch to Desktop mode on SteamOS, all those applications you listed are available via the included app store that taps into Flathub. SteamOS also ships with Firefox out of the box. I have them all installed on my SteamDeck already.

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[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Well, yes and no. The main point of compatibility that games should be working towards if they want to run well on macOS is to have ARM versions that work better with Apple's M-series chips. SteamOS/The Steam Deck are still built for x86 processors which Apple has since stopped supporting.

It's not impossible to bundle the games in an emulation layer, but it is a bit more involved than something like Proton/WINE, which are just compatibility layers and not emulators, and it comes at the cost of performance.

[–] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Rosetta 2 seems pretty good still. It’s not free translation, but it’s viable.

I don’t expect macOS to be the best platform for games, I just want them broadly playable.

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[–] unautrenom@jlai.lu 49 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

(2025 is “The year of the Windows 11 PC refresh,” allegedly)

Wait. Since when has Microsoft's Windows team been drinking from the same copium jars as us Linux users have for years?

That's hilarious.

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 27 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Oh it will be the year of the Windows 11 refresh, there's no question of that. Untold millions of business PCs will be making the change as Windows 10 goes EoL.

It's a very different story in the home market. Frankly the only thing holding Windows Gaming in place is decades of increasing personal PC ownership but that ownership / use rate is now declining as normal people transition to using smartphones and tablets.

In just a few short years, ten at most, gaming on Windows will be about as relevant as gaming on Mac. It may still be called "PC Gaming", you can already see media trying to redefine gaming on SteamDeck and other handhelds as "PC Gaming", but those games won't be built around the Windows OS.

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[–] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 33 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Steam is terrified of the Microsoft store. It's part of why they're moving to linux

[–] lengau@midwest.social 17 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Sure, but Valve is terrified of the Microsoft store for a subtly, but importantly, different reason than why Microsoft should be terrified of Steam OS.

Microsoft should be terrified that Steam OS will destroy their monopoly by making it so users no longer have to use their product.

Valve is terrified that Microsoft will destroy their monopoly by making it so users no longer can use their product.

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[–] 7rokhym@lemmy.ca 28 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

Microsoft could also be terrified of how shitty Windows 11 is. I have to think back to Millennium Edition to compare to something this disastrous, but Satya doesn't care about Windows, Surface, or XBox. Microsoft's future is M365, Azure, and D365. Big fat high margin Enterprise Agreements since everyone is locked into their proprietary shitty office formats. And they get enterprise problems with audit, identify, access control like few other businesses.

What I don't know understand is why companies refuse to sell off businesses that they know will die off from their neglect. A shame, except for Windows.

[–] endeavor@sopuli.xyz 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

There is nothing to be terrified of for MS, windows can implement mandatory rectal scans to log in and linux wouldn't break 20% market share.

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[–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 27 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

That would be nice, having good competition solves a lot of problems. Plus if steamOS gains enough traction more large game studios may start to specifically support it.

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[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 23 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

I'm at an uncomfortable crossroads of knowing enough to hate Microsoft, but not knowing enough to trust myself with switching to Linux. I'm like just barely tech-literate enough to wander into places like Lemmy, but beneath some surface level shit I'm probably one of the dumbest motherfuckers here when it comes to not setting my devices on fire.

So... a 'Linux for dummies' sounds exactly like what I need!

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 14 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Well, there are a lot of newb-friendly distros these days. Some options:

  • Linux Mint (any spin) - one of the easiest to get help with online, with minimal compromises
  • Fedora - also pretty easy to get help w/ online
  • Bazzite - great if you just want to play games; it's about as close to SteamOS as you get w/o an official release

Any of those should be pretty friendly to users new to Linux, and they go roughly in order from fitness as a regular desktop (top down) to fitness for gaming (bottom up), but any of them can handle gaming and desktop stuff pretty equivalently.

[–] warmaster@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Bazzite is freaking awesome. I started my Linux journey with Arch, then tried Ubuntu, Debian, Fedora, Mint, Zorin, Endeavour and more. Bazzite has been on my PC for a year and it's been the best experience I had with PCs in my whole life. I freaking love it.

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[–] illi@lemm.ee 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I feared making the plunge as well but it was so seamless tbh. Got Linux Mint and it just feels like a newer version of old Windows. Not sure how it's with other distros, but I find it to be precicely Linux for dummies.

I'd say the difficulty to getting used to new environment was on a similar level to getting from Windows XP to Windows 7. If you can dual boot I recommend just trying it - the water is fine.

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[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (5 children)

Some things that may help you get started:

  1. All of the risk in changing your computer operating system comes from the potential loss of data. Everything else is replaceable/recoverable, including your original Windows install if needed. You can avoid this risk by backing up your personal data to an external drive, which frankly everyone should be doing anyway because hard drives are consumables.

  2. You can try Linux with no risk by running it as a live OS. This loads the operating system files into RAM from an external device (typically a USB drive) and makes no changes to the system hard drive. This lets you test your computer's functionality in Linux without making permanent changes (does my graphics card work? wifi? audio? etc). The mainstream Linux installers do this already for the installation process, but you can just load one up to try things out without running the installation process.

  3. You don't have to completely switch off of Windows. It's fairly easy to install Linux as a dual-boot on an existing Windows system. As long as you have some free space on your hard drive to dedicate to Linux, you can just keep your Windows install and have Linux too. You can even access your files in Windows from the Linux install. All of the mainstream Linux installers have the option for setting up dual-boot during the installation.

  4. I think one of the biggest hurdles for switching over is knowing what software to use in Linux (how do I edit a document? watch a movie? read a pdf? etc). There are options for basically anything you might want to do, but if you don't know what you're looking for you might feel a bit lost. I recommend alternativeto.net for this. You can search for software like Microsoft Office and filter for Linux to get a list of compatible software options that do the same job.

I’m probably one of the dumbest motherfuckers here when it comes to not setting my devices on fire.

I know exactly how you feel. I have wrecked so many OS installs I've lost track. I have friends who tell me I have tech problems like no one else. I seem to stumble into edge cases on a higher-than-average basis.

My point is, when I say that everything is recoverable, that's from experience. I've done it enough times to know there's very little chance of actually making a computer unusable, though it's relatively easy to lose your data if you're not paying attention to what you doing - so backups. Always backups.

If you try this a couple times you'll start to see your computer as something that you have control over, something that you can completely wipe and bring back or rebuild into a different system as you please. Feel free to reach out if you've got questions.

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[–] TypicalHog@lemm.ee 23 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

When most/all multiplayer games start working on Linux that's when Linux can really start taking off.

[–] bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 3 weeks ago

It's the year of the Linux Desktop!!

[–] renegadespork@lemmy.jelliefrontier.net 7 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

They do. We're already there.

The only titles that don't work are the ones with kernel level anti-cheat, and that needs to die anyway.

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[–] someacnt@sh.itjust.works 17 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Year of linux desktop, amirite?

Jesus, news outlets love hyperbole, don't they. We are not even at 5% market share.

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[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 16 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (31 children)

Gaming is only a fraction of what we need to get people to move away from Windows.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Yes, it's only a fraction, but most of the rest is going to SaaS through web browsers or mobile apps, because companies get to control and force subscriptions that way, but has a side effect of targeting a browser as a platform rather than an OS. Gaming in browser is more in the pain point of browsers, so it's a use case that demands OS.

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[–] warm@kbin.earth 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I think Steam Machines would be successful now.

[–] kurcatovium@lemm.ee 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I believe it could be killer casual home PC if they had clearly stated specs with expected power draw and output. Not everything needs to run at 240 Hz in 4k res... as steamdeck showed. It has too low res though for desktop PC, so new steam machine should be a bit beefier than just rebranded deck.

[–] warm@kbin.earth 7 points 3 weeks ago

I could be horribly wrong, but with a disgruntled console market and SteamOS's success on the Steam Deck, a plug and play device along with a controller could be very successful at capturing departing console users and it would really give a kick start to linux gaming.

I know there's lots of people who want to try PC gaming, but are not sure how to or are scared to do so, a Steam Machine would be the perfect device for them, they could just plug it into their TV and be gaming in minutes, just like the simplicity of the Deck.

[–] magic_lobster_party@fedia.io 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Microsoft has already lost the console wars, and now it starts to look like they might even lose the PC wars. Is there any future for Microsoft gaming? It feels like the only thing they got going for them is Call of Duty.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Is there any future for Microsoft gaming?

Yes, in the "Netflix of Gaming" Game Pass, they've already been pivoting on it more and more. They know they're losing their hardware dominance

Only a matter of time IMO before they work on getting Game Pass games on Linux. Which would be great because I got the bulk of my games from Game Pass these days lol

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[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I hope the installer will be so easy that even non-gamers with little to no technical knowledge will be able to download it, double-click, and follow the wizard then end up with SteamOS installed. That would be the dream.

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[–] warmaster@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Bazzite is exactly that. Dead easy.

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