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[–] d00ery@lemmy.world 16 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

This is why the moderation is changing. Similar story with Trump, Apple, xitter, and Elon. Lots of corners to cut and money to be made if you kiss his boots.

JD Vance has suggested that American support for NATO should be predicated on the European Union not regulating Elon Musk and his X social media platform, formerly known as Twitter.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/jd-vance-elon-musk-x-twitter-donald-trump-b2614525.html

Trump vowed last month not to let the EU "take advantage of our companies," saying Apple CEO Tim Cook had called him to complain about an EU antitrust fine and back-tax order. There may soon be more to complain about, as Apple is set to get the EU’s first fine for not complying with digital competition rules, Bloomberg reported.

https://www.politico.eu/article/donald-trump-elon-musk-x-tech-social-media-politics-elections-eu/

[–] Thorry84@feddit.nl 30 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Lmao, how would Trump ever do that?

If you want to sell your product/service in the EU, you comply with EU laws and if you don't comply you pay the fines. And if you continue to not comply your product/service will be banned and you will not be able to sell it legally anymore. And in case of a webservice like Facebook the site can get blocked real fast.

[–] MolecularCactus1324@lemmy.world 9 points 6 hours ago

He’ll do what he already wants to do, drive a between the US and the EU by adding tariffs and just generally finding Europe’s weak points and sticking his finger in them til either the EU rolls back its laws, or he completely fractures the relationship. I’m guessing tech companies don’t want to fracture the relationship because they still want to be able to sell their shit there.

[–] Doubleohdonut@lemmy.ca 8 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Maybe he'll try to annex the whole EU instead of just Greenland

[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

I have a few tinfoil hat theories. You know, the kinda shit you come up with trying to plan for the worst.

One of them is that all these villainous world superpowers are going to get together and basically redraw the world. Eg: US will say they won't defend S. Korea, Taiwan, or Ukraine if they can get Canada and Greenland, that kinda shit.

And there's nothing to stop them

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Like literally what Nazi Germany and Stalnist USSR attempted to do leading up to Ww2, creating spheres of influence and preemptively dividing up territory. (Of course the Nazis also knew they were going to turn around and try and take the USSR too)

[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 hours ago

Yep that's where the theory comes from. History is repeating itself perfectly

[–] Thorry84@feddit.nl 2 points 7 hours ago

I'd say that's crazy and never going to happen, but looking at the past 10 years have taught me I have no idea what can happen and what can't.

[–] Antaeus@lemmy.world 90 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

Alternatively, we, in the EU could just... Stop using Facebook, Instagram, X, TikTok or whatever being used to harvest our data?

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 12 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (2 children)

Really, governments should make and moderate their own social media services, the basic concept is a great communication medium for everything from like reporting potholes to promoting blood donation drives to quickly sharing updates during emergency weather situations etc., the kinds of basic citizen service stuff governments should be doing, but when profit notices creep in we get all this data harvesting and Skinner-box algorithmic manipulation that ruins things

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I hate it how Facebook is a better source of public safety information than some government websites.

If we need to travel the snowy highways you can get better updates on the conditions than the official highways website.

[–] Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 1 points 30 minutes ago

If you can even navigate the garbage official websites. That's alwaysy issue, there is way too much crap and nothing is straightforward ever.

[–] un_aristocrate@jlai.lu 2 points 7 hours ago

Where I live the government does all this already.

[–] h_ramus@lemm.ee 28 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
[–] warmaster@lemmy.world 6 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Hell, Whatsapp may be the worst of them all.

[–] loaExMachina@sh.itjust.works 11 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

And unfortunately, hard to move away from because so many people are using it and it's hard to push other people to change. I've heard of a bill being discussed to force WhatsApp to become interoperable with other messaging platforms that use similar protocols, like Signal. I have WhatsApp, Signal and Telegram, but rarely use the other two because most people I know don't. The minute interoperability happens I'm ditching WhatsApp, but I'm sure the Zuck will do all it can to prevent it...

[–] elmicha@feddit.org 5 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Whatsapp already implemented this, but as far as I know nobody took the offer. E.g. Signal and Threema don't want to connect with WhatsApp.

[–] loaExMachina@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 hours ago

I see... Yeah, I guess user data could leak through their interaction with WhatsApp, and a messaging service that whose biggest selling argument is privacy wouldn't want that... It's a shame. Guess I'll just keep using them with the people who do.

[–] Typotyper@sh.itjust.works 15 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Can Canada get on board with that too

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 hours ago

Can the U.S. also.., oh goddamnit

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 45 points 13 hours ago
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 34 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

How exactly would Trump stop that? He doesn't even know.

[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 40 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

Tariffs.

Trump's answer to everything is tariffs - i.e. punishing Americans for buying products from countries he doesn't like.

[–] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 21 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Trump is destroying the US's ability to use soft power when the world needs it the most to stop imperialism from the likes of Russia and China.

[–] ladicius@lemmy.world 17 points 12 hours ago

He will be using the US to empower imperialism all around. The CP* videos they took of him in Mozcow keep him on a tight leash from his soviet overlord.

*That's my take about them: The pissing as a kink is totally neglectable - the age of the pissers is his real problem, see also his daughter and Epstein and all that.

[–] leftytighty@slrpnk.net -1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

lol the world views the US as just as imperialist and fuck your "soft power." You're in for a surprise if you think the US is a force against imperialism, especially under Trump.

What new regions will be lay claim to tomorrow? How much of Syria are you going to pay for Israel to occupy? Democrats did that one...

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

You're in for a surprise if you think the US will be a force against imperialism, especially under Trump.

Where did they say they thought Trump would be a force against imperialism?

[–] leftytighty@slrpnk.net 0 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

My broader point is that the US has always been imperialist.

[–] Sidyctism2@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 8 hours ago (1 children)
[–] leftytighty@slrpnk.net 0 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

"destroying the US ability to fight imperialism"

I guess we can consider that "of other nations," sure. Very noble

[–] Sidyctism2@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

nobody talked about nobility

[–] leftytighty@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

"the world needs American imperialism most right now" isn't the righteous comment you think it is

You don't speak for us in "the world"