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[–] jared@mander.xyz 16 points 3 days ago

11 years without a cigarette, still vape though.

[–] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Depends on what part of it you're addicted to.

I just want nicotine. I don't care out of what.

Some people want the feel, sensation and flavor of a cigarette.

I just want my fix so I can carry on with my day.

That's kinda the line between moving to a vape or not.

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[–] bizarroland@fedia.io 12 points 2 days ago

I did. Been a decade since I had a cigarette.

[–] witty_username@feddit.nl 10 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Yes. It is a shame that vapes are disregarded as therapeutics. They are fantastic in that regard.
Not to say that the fruit flavoured garbage aimed at children is okay; it is not and should be dealt with. However, we should simultaneously not let the tobacco industry deter the medically valid use of vapes for use as an aid with smoking cessation

[–] Today@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

My son worked for vape wild. His favorite part was talking to people about how to use vapes and custom fluids to quit smoking. Then they had a huge investment from one of the cigarette companies and it all went downhill.

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[–] RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 2 days ago

Yes, I know someone who did, but they ODed on the nicotine cartridges via vaping and not reading the dosages carefully. They quit entirely after that.

[–] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 days ago

Yes, it just took me about 5 years of on and off vaping 😅. Vaping is a much better addiction to have than smoking though.

[–] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 days ago

I think you have to want to quit smoking for it to work like that. I've found that because vaping is more accessible than smoking, someone's vaping consumption can be far higher than what they were smoking. It can be quite easy to sort of absent mindedly vape in a way that's harder to do when smoking.

But I do know people who have used vaping in this way. Someone I knew had tried to quit smoking before but they couldn't go from one cigarette per day (and they needed to quit fully, or their smoking would inevitably increase during times of stress). When smoking, I guess you could roll a smaller cigarette, but this friend tried that and it didn't work. Vaping allowed them to finally kick the habit for good because their vape allowed them to taper down the nicotine content per puff of the vape

[–] Berttheduck@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 days ago

Vaping is safer than cigarettes, it's still bad and we don't know how bad it is long term but it is safer than smoking. It's better to just stop completely using a stop smoking service to get alternative nicotine products if that's available. If the person doesn't want to stop then you're unlikely to be able to make them however a vape might be able to replace it with something better. Other products to look at are patches, gum, lozenges and inhalators which can be useful in quitting.

In summary smoking and vaping are both bad but smoking is worse. Better off just quitting if possible, if not go for the vape.

My mom did. She smoked cigarettes since the 80s and quit in 2012 with vape. She never smoked a single cigarette after that

[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

My friend started smoking after quiting because he started vaping... So there's always that.

[–] brap@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

Yep. I moved from smoking to vaping. It became a bit of a hobby but I quit that too after a few years just by lowering the nicotine bit by bit and ended up just not using it when the habit was no longer fuelled by addiction.

[–] nnullzz@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I wish I could vape. This is gonna sound stupid, bc it is, but I’m a chronic asthmatic who has smoked for about 20 years now. Been intubated twice for asthma. And yet I still can’t put the damn cigarettes down. I’ve tried patches, gum, hypnotism, medication, you name it.

Vaping was the only thing that was helping when I switched but believe it or not, it was bothering me way more than a cigarette. Immediate throat scratchiness and shortness of breath. That doesn’t happen with smokes though. I’ve tried all sorts of vapes too. All with the same result.

Smoking is probably gonna be what takes me out and it sucks that I feel totally powerless. I will say though, that the book “The Easy Way to Stop Smoking” by Allen Carr got me off cigs for about 3 months. Then my grandpa died and it all spiraled back from there.

[–] palordrolap@fedia.io 5 points 2 days ago

Apologies for what could well be a dumb suggestion: Herbal / nicotine free cigs exist. They might be an avenue of escape if you haven't tried that already.

Smoking isn't just the nicotine fix, it's the whole ritual of getting away and doing something else for a while. Scratching that itch might work.

Of course there are other ways to get away and do something else for a while, but those are for later.

[–] NABDad@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Two things:

Cigarettes contain ingredients to suppress some of the negative symptoms of smoking. One reason you might have irritation without the cigarettes is because the cigarettes are preventing you from feeling the irritation they cause. Just a thought. It might make sense to see if you can get other medication to help with those issues until you are able to stop vaping too.

Also, hearing that the death of your grandpa caused a relapse suggests you might want to try quitting again, but with some sort of therapy/support. Try the book method again, but make sure you have someone to talk through issues with.

[–] TwanHE@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Don't think I've seen one of my friends actually quit yet, but vaping has replaced cigarettes for 90% of the usage.

So it really depends if you think vaping is less harmful than smoking.

Vaped for about 7 years after quitting smoking. Switched to 0 nicotine vape fluid and then finally got tired of vaping and just sort of stopped.

[–] amstafff@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

100% yes. It made a big difference for me. I didn't even want to stop smoking I just did.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

20 years ago I quit smoking with chewing tobacco aka dip. That shit is WAY better than cigarettes. Dip was even harder to quit. Then I went back to off and on cigarettes for 18 years. I have not had one in a year and a half and have no intention or desire to ever start that shit up again. Welbutrin is also pretty helpful for this. My best friend did mostly quit by switching to vape though, so I think it can work. I'm pretty sure it's also just as bad for you though?

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Now they have those nicotine pouches that are even better.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 4 points 2 days ago

Most people I know that used to smoke now vape instead.

The main reason is not that vapes are great, but that cigarettes cost about £15 a pack.

[–] Takumidesh@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

I did but it took me a long time, years and years, with occasional dips back into smoking.

Now though it's nearly been 2 years no vape or anything and at least three years of no nicotine.

I went up and down in nicotine levels, I used big huge cloud throwing fog machines and little tiny disposables.

I eventually settled on a unit with a built in rechargeable battery and pods with replaceable coils (geekvape aegis)

I don't think vaping will naturally result in quitting, it I do think it's the most effective harm reducer out there and as a tool has many ways to help reduce use over time.

High nicotine disposables (elf bars, juul) I would stay away from if you can though since the nicotine concentration is so high that it can deepen the addiction.

[–] Mangoholic@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago

You can try but some people are allergic to the liquids used. And the person vaping has to slowly decrease the nicotine amount over time, a lot of people start increasing it instead and end up with more unhealthy nicotine levels than regular cigs. Also vaping is not good for the lungs either.

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