Nobody says "Won't someone think of their kids?" when celebrating a mass shooter or a drug kingpin or a foreign dictator being deposed. It's a shitty argument here, too.
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Nobody says "what about their kids" when a poor single parent stealing food to live ends up in jail and their kids in foster care.
They are absolutely thinking of the children. They are thinking about how much more likely they are to end up in the system, more slave labour from the next generation.
Those criminals would have raised their kids to be criminals, too. It’s good the kids will be taken away to be raised by a system that will [checks notes] orphan them, abuse them, and raise them to be institutionalised. That will totally fix the problems of generational poverty and waste of societal potential, preventing those kids from becoming adults who have to steal food so their own kids can live.
Yeah I never heard anyone say "won't someone think of Osama bin Laden's, like, 30 fukken kids?" Genghis Khan had so many goddam kids that we're still finding bits of Mongol warlord genome stuck in random places like it's craft glitter. Fuckin' Leopold II had four kids, went off to make people-hand soup down in the Congo, and then had three more kids while he was doing it! This is not necessarily an indicator of virtue, folks!
The reporting on Brian Thompson feels similar to as if Igor Kirillov (Russian general killed in the scooter bombing) was being reported by Russia Today on how his two kids and wife love him and anonymous staffers praising his work.
Nobody says “Won’t someone think of their kids?” when celebrating a mass shooter or a drug kingpin or a foreign dictator being deposed.
I've heard it said unironically a few times about dictators we're allied with who have a sudden fall from grace. The Shah of Iran, the Batista Regime in Cuba, and the brief failed Jeanine Áñez coup in Bolivia all leap to mind. I'm sure we'll get some kind of "President Yoon was a cool dude with a family why is everyone in South Korea so mean to him?" Op-Ed sooner or later. We just stuck the head of Al Qaeda in Syria in charge of the country and I don't doubt we'll get a bunch of "Damn, what a cool guy I can't believe he got got his family will be so sad" stories if he ever accidentally swallows a hand grenade in a power dispute.
And I can't count the number of articles, TV Shows, and movies that try to lionize the CIA. They're some of the biggest drug runners on the planet. Hell "Charlie Wilson's War" might as well have been "Dr. Heroin the Child Rapist or how I learned to stop worrying and love the Mujaheddin".
And then you've got the real heavy hitters like American Sniper and Rambo II. Talk about celebrating mass shooters.
There are more people who can say "Brian Thompson killed my father", than there are "Luigi Mangione killed my father."
If you don't want people to celebrate your death, don't live in a way that makes people want to celebrate your death.
What's the saying? You shouldn't say anything about the dead unless it's good. So he's dead. Good!
You shouldn’t say anything about the dead unless it’s good. So he’s dead. Good!
this sounds like a joke from an 80 year old jewish man.
Osama bin Laden had kids. Heck one of his kids was shot in the raid that killed him too.
Not one of these news outlets called for a moment of remembering the humanity of them, right?
Murder is wrong, murdering a murder isn't good, but let's not pretend to have principles on the matter if we don't have them
Could not care less about some trust fund kids.
I mean, I can feel bad for his kids (especially if they're too young to understand, no idea how old they are) and still be of the opinion fuck that guy. The two are not mutually exclusive.
Grief is not a conscious decision and we do not get to choose who we will mourn for and because of that, I do feel for them, but the rest of us are under absolutely no obligation to mourn along with them.
It's hard to grow up with no dad.
It's also hard to grow up with a dad who's a bottom feeding scumbag.
Brian Thompson was a scumbag. We can't say whether it will be better or worse growing up without him. We can only say that if he wasn't a scumbag, he'd probably still be here.
Their dad didn't give even a single thought to the people who died because of him, why should his priveleged-ass kids get even a seconds thought from me beyond potential future followers in daddy's shoes?
Truth is, people celebrated before we had any idea who this guy was. He wasn’t famous or a public figure before he was killed. People didn’t hate the man that died, nor his kids.
People cheered because of what he represented. People didn’t celebrate his death, they celebrated that it made his type of person look like they aren’t untouchable.
Anyone who has kids and wants to leave a good legacy for their kids will now have to take into account whether they want their kids to end up like this guy’s kids. I know I won’t be accepting any c-suite jobs any time soon, but I’ve turned down jobs in the past because they didn’t align with my morals.
people like him are not like most of us. The amount of wealth they've acquired is absolutely an indicator of that. There are many legitimate reasons to hate the man.
Same, I turned one down earlier this year. No amount of money would make me hurt people like he did.
Also, what does it have to do with whether he was a father or not? If he had had no kids, would that change anything? Can it be more acceptable to kill someone who hasn't had kids? What's the point in that?
I mean, if it's not obvious, the point people are making is that his kids are innocent and that celebrating their father's death increases their suffering.
I agree with the logic, but I don't think it's enough to shut down the conversation.
Hell, my father died and I was excited and happy as a clam, and he was just a normal dickhead.
For all we know, it was the guys kid who made several of the first memes about it!
If my biological father could just go ahead and kick the bucket, the world would be a slightly better place.
I am not at all worried about his kids. His kids are set for life.
I am worried about other kids- and adults- suffering due to a much less discerning and less accurate copycat vigilante. It hasn't happened so far, but it is something that greatly concerns me.
Thompson was divorced. My understanding is he had either limited or no contact with his kids.
I wonder if he updated his will since the divorce
Paul F. Tompkins is excellent and 'No You Shut Up' should have gone on for 20 more seasons
I miss Dead Authors Podcast but I'm happy for his success.
Whatever, piss pig
this hypothetical pondering isn't reality. mega wealthy people don't care if poor people suffer or die. they don't see us as humans. we are just parasites that cost them money. it literally doesn't matter that we generate all the money for them--we are repulsive to them, and the celebration over CEO extermination just pushes us even further into "other" territory
this is how kids are raised in billionaire households. you think that asshole's kids plays with poor kids? or even has any kind of meaningful interaction with them? hell fucking no. they go to private school with other rich kids, get chauffeured everywhere, vacation in places only they can afford, and on and on-- how else would all these kids grow up to be exactly the same as the assholes who raised them?
to hell with the lot of them i say
Paul F Tompkins is great!
He's a principal on my beloved Thrilling Adventure Hour, a new-time stage show and podcast in the style of old-time radio. I've seen them live twice.
His very excellent improv comedy podcast SPONTANEANATION! with tons of great guests. Link to a live show video.
He had his own fake news show with puppets briefly, No You Shut Up!
He was main cast on Bajillion Dollar Properties, a fake reality show about Hollywood real estate agents.
PFT was in Tangled with a minor part as Short Thug, a passable rap name.
He and his longtime friend Tawny Newsome (who plays Mariner Beckett) co-host the official Star Trek podcast.
Plus he's basically the king of podcast guesting. He has been in everyone else's show. And who can forget his impeccable style.
Kid probably happy too, since, odds are, the dead person was shitty to the kids.
Geneally, you don't become a CEO without being a shitty person, and therefore a shitty parent.
Is this a crossover episode?
This whole thing has me thinking about the gun control episode of Bojack a lot.
The moment rich white guys felt threatened (by women in that case) guns were completely outlawed, and I think this is the closest we'll ever get to that in real life. If a few more CEOs are knocked off I could see it being discussed. If 10 or 20 more are killed I think we would actually see severe restrictions put in place.
This is literally what Reagan did as governor of California when Black Panthers were arming themselves.
2A is unassailable ... until the wrong people decide to embrace it. Be one of those people.
This assumes the kids didn't already hate his guts.
Literally fatherless behavior
Thompson's children, like every other human, aren't just neutral moral agents. Like their father, their position depends on our monstrous system. Sure they could overcome this and adopt good politics, but it will be harder for them than people who earn money honestly.
Remember that the capitalists are always class-conscious and usually show class-solidarity.
This is just racism against rich people.
No, I will not be explaining my thoughts further. I will simply be collecting my check from the WSJ.
What about Hitler's kids and kids of his family members?
Ah, they made their choice to never have kids.
I kinda think they don't need to do that, they are different persons with different backgrounds who'd act differently being knowledgeable of what Germany did there.
But I want this question to hang over the heads of these CEOs, their peers and families. I want them to question themselves.