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[–] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 80 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

man who normally buys "narrative-driven, story-rich games" forced to put his money back into his wallet

[–] viking@infosec.pub 6 points 6 days ago (12 children)

Anything good you can recommend? Haven't seen much good since Witcher 3... And before that, maybe Gothic 2 or Oblivion.

[–] logos@sh.itjust.works 21 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Baldurs gate 3? One of the best games I ever played.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 7 points 6 days ago

I haven't played it, but based on everything I've read about it, that alone puts the headline to shame.

[–] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 days ago

This man is spitting straight fire.

[–] Ashtear@lemm.ee 12 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Since The Witcher 3 came out, my favorite video game stories have been Disco Elysium, Cyberpunk 2077, 13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim, Alan Wake 2, Citizen Sleeper, and Metaphor: ReFantazio. I also really liked Death Stranding, but Kojima's not for everyone.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 9 points 6 days ago

Divinity Original Sin 1 and 2, if you haven't played already. Think of them as the stepping stones for BG3.

Spec Ops: The Line is a 3rd person shooter with an incredible story, I think it takes 4-6 hours to go through the campaign. Short when compared to RPGs, but worth the time. People also talk about Titanfall 2's campaign being great, I haven't played it yet.

Mass Effect trilogy is also very good, mainly the 2nd game. The first game is the jankiest of the bunch and the 3rd is much better after all the DLC, though I still don't like how the optional Paragon/Renegade prompts from 2 became obligatory QTE in 3.

[–] Earflap@reddthat.com 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

If you liked the story driven elements of TW3 you might like Cyberpunk 2077. Its very similar story and engine wise since they're both made by CDPR, but obviously very different thematically. God of War is another story driven narrative driven game I enjoyed.

[–] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

....Yakuza

Bros being bros forever.

[–] Damage@feddit.it 2 points 5 days ago

Control? Horizon Zero Dawn and Horizon Forbidden West.

[–] Ellvix@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Currently sucked into Kingdom Come Deliverance, which is similar to TW3 in that it's a first person story driven game, but set in IRL 1403 Bohemia instead of the fantasy setting. Very good historical storytelling, I think.

[–] Earflap@reddthat.com 1 points 6 days ago

TW3 is third person

[–] Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

You know, maybe i dont know enough about games as i am a casual these days, aside from baldurs gate 3 which is a fucking masterpiece, i really like the 2 (soon to be 3) star wars jedi games outcast and survivour. They are like a much easier souls mixed with the 3d prince of persia (sands of time, warrior within, two thrones) games but are very story driven. I am very excited to see what will happen in the final game in the trilogy qhen it comes out.

[–] SpiceDealer@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

I've been playing Outer Worlds lately. It's made by Obsidian so it's gameplay is similar to F:NV.

I've been loving Metaphor recently

[–] ours@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

The new Indiana Jones game is really fun.

[–] GelatinGeorge@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

I've a love/hate relationship with Rogue Trader 40k. I fucking love it, literally everything about it, but I also hate it because it will end at some point.

[–] DankDingleberry@lemmy.world 45 points 6 days ago (1 children)

thats a shitty excuse if i ever heard one

[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 6 days ago

More like it’s a shitty headline. The article shows there’s a little more to it, specifically that it was going to go over budget and they hadn’t figured out what they were gonna do.

[–] Vipsu@lemmy.world 20 points 6 days ago (2 children)

The title is a bit missleading considering that the actual article mentions a lot other problems that plagued the development.

Project 8 faced both progress and challenges. The COVID-19 pandemic made team stability difficult, but some quality improvements were achieved. However, critical issues persisted, causing delays and budget increases. The latest review revealed unresolved problems needing more time and money, along with revised sales forecasts, raising doubts about the project's profitability.
-- TLDR by Microsoft copilot

While there's still demand for "narrative-driven story-rich games" one should keep realistic expectations. For this genre I feel smaller scope and indie developers work much better.

[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 3 points 6 days ago

Oof.

"The COVID-19 pandemic made team stability difficult,"

Makes me suspect they were woefully behind the rest of the field in development practices. My team, and many others, gained productivity when all the wasteful manager ego stroking in-person meetings stopped.

Alternately, it tells us they rely on a weird dev kit with a lot of esoteric hardware. Though I would still call that out as being super out of date. Nothing is particularly hard to emulate today, for teams that prioritize having rebuildable test environmenta.

Just wild.

Bummer about the layoffs. Probably won't fix their agility problem, though.

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[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 21 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Typical infantile C-suite logic “I didn't do X well, therefore X is impossible and no one can do X! It's not my fault, I swear!”

[–] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Maybe the people are just out of touch? I'm sure that's it.

[–] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 1 points 6 days ago

No it's the gamers who are wrong

[–] ryedaft@sh.itjust.works 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The Last of Us is still selling.

[–] LouNeko@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

Which one? The original? The Remaster or the Remake? Or the 2nd or the Remaster of the 2nd?

[–] SweatyFireBalls@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago

Obviously this is just me, but here is a list of the last 5 games I purchased that were not smaller indie titles:

Stalker 2, Elden ring, remnant 2, bg3, dragon's dogma 2

You could argue that remnant is intended for multiplayer and you could argue that maybe only bg3 and stalker and really narrative driven but the truth is, anymore I tend to buy single player and stream to my friends than I do actually play mp games. The only mp game i was tempted by was Helldivers and I was just too busy at the time.

Anything else are steam deck friendly indie games. I buy a lot of those, and bought a lot even before I had a deck.

In my anecdotal experience, when I see x game is multiplayer, or live service, or just not an experience I can enjoy on my own time I tune it out. For example, I always bought Diablo games but I don't own 4.

I also immediately think of some other big ones that I opted out of, like Wukong. People fucking love single player games when they are good games. I think the real issue is developing a good game is hard. Developing a game with dark practices and otherwise addicting (but not necessarily fun) gameplay is a much easier way to make uninspired games made by committee.

It's just easier to point the blame at the market than actually admit that upon self reflection you realized it is best to avoid the hard part of game development.

[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 8 points 6 days ago

Ah, so managerial problems again who would have thought but that's OK we that make the things can suffer a little more

[–] kryptonidas@lemmings.world 6 points 6 days ago

I liked Frostpunk and would have loved a story driven game in that universe.

[–] MarcomachtKuchen@feddit.org 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Ok guys valid points from everyone here. But who here has bought the latest 11bit Studios games? And I'm not talking about Frostpunk 2. I'm taking about Indika, The alters (not out yet, my bad) , The Traumathurge, Creatures of Ava ,... all of these games seemed like really cool things to me, sadly I could not afford them.

[–] CaptPretentious@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The Alters isn't out yet. Expected release Q1 2025. It's on my wish list because I love the demo.

Indika they were just the publisher. On top of which, maybe has a story that not everyone is interested in. I watched these guys play it, https://youtu.be/MuiHtAYOqgI and while it's creative and it's overall a fantastic game, is not one I'm going to play myself.

The Thaumaturge, again they are just the publisher. I hadn't even heard of this one which means as the publisher they did a terrible job marketing it.

[–] MarcomachtKuchen@feddit.org 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Thank you for the correction. The alters is indeed not out yet.

In my opinion for the other I doesn't matter whether they are just publishing or actually developing. The games are not bar but apparently don't sell well. Maybe their not the greatest at marketing but I enjoy the vibes they are going for

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