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[–] marcolo@poliverso.org 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

@FlyingSquid
"Scientists say..."
All of them, are you sure?
Geoengineering schemes are not agreed upon by many scientists. There are several types of geoengineering "solutions" and no agreement on any, just suggestions.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

I can't help what the article is titled. 🤷‍♂️

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What the diamond version of silicosis?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

I don't know, but I hear De Beers is already planning to corner the lung transplant market.

[–] febra@lemmy.world 38 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Amazing. Instead of just.. fighting climate change by not polluting the planet let's just fill our entire atmosphere with diamond dust, because that's the logical decision of course.

[–] Eximius@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

It's not really any different than usual dust, other than it is even more likely to scratch your phone (oh no!). The surprising thing is the bullshit price number, I'm sure it's some brain-dead economist looking at the point-price for diamond and with great effort making a single multiplication.

Edit: The study does note industrial diamond manufacturing, but doesn't go into detail on why it's so expensive for diamond powder, other than saying "it would require much more industrial diamond than is currently produced".... Which is just.... Empty? Considering industry would change to account for such a drastic rise in demand.

[–] SlothMama@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

Am I the only one worried about it scratching my eyes???

[–] TurboHarbinger@feddit.cl 10 points 5 days ago

Let's throw more carbon to the air, what could go wrong. Is not like it will get to our lungs and destroy everything from the inside.

[–] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 24 points 6 days ago (2 children)

How effective would it be to sprinkle CEO dust into the sky?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago

I'm not saying we should try it and find out, but I've heard worse ideas.

[–] TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz 1 points 4 days ago

Not at all. Much cheaper to sprinkle them in the hog trough

[–] Fedegenerate@lemmynsfw.com 8 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Does this feel like swallowing a spider to catch a fly to anyone else?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

Perhaps we'll die.

[–] john89@lemmy.ca 27 points 6 days ago

The artificially-inflated price of the diamonds should be irrelevant in this calculation.

[–] lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world 21 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Sweet! Four more years of Trump presidency, and Elon Musk can just pay for it out of pocket.

[–] john89@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Elon musk's kids should be made an example of when reclamation comes around.

They're being brought up thinking they can live like gods. How unfortunate would it be if they actually had to live like the rest of us...

[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Isn't this kind of thing the premise for all those "snowball Earth" sci Fi stories where global cooling went too far

[–] Ydna@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

No don't worry about that!

[–] AlphaOmega@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Isn't this very similar to the annuki and the Sumerian history. Where these aliens came to earth to mine gold to take it back to their planet and use it to save their atmosphere.

[–] pageflight@lemmy.world 25 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

So what would it cost to replace all fossil fuel energy with renewable?

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You are missing the point, because we need to do that anyway.
The idea is to prevent things from getting worse in the meantime.
Replacing fossil fuels take time no matter how much we invest.

[–] ComicalMayhem@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

ok but you just know corporations are going to use this as an excuse to keep using fossil fuels. like to them this is basically carte blanche to keep the status quo and block green energy from happening even harder. "oh hurdur har har we found a solution to climate change and it's dumping diamonds in the atmosphere, no need to pay for green energy anymore haha" type shit

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

corporations are going to use this as an excuse to keep using fossil fuels.

Corporations follow the law, the only way to solove this is to have the laws required.

[–] itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Corporations follow the law

Good one

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

Oh please, of course they don't always, but the ones that don't are generally forced to by oversight.
Yes I kn ow they generally get off easy, but then oversight is increased and if it continues, the penalties increase, until ultimately it will be forced to shut down if illegal activities continue.
So yes generally cooperations do follow the law.

[–] palordrolap@fedia.io 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] pageflight@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

Thanks, hadn't seen that before. I wonder how things like "eat less beef" fit into that chart, or of that's part of the $0 premium.

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[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago

Break into the diamond company vaults and just take it. Bam, free diamonds.

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 13 points 6 days ago

The silicosis will run rampant

[–] dsilverz@thelemmy.club 17 points 6 days ago

Someone heard The Beatles (or maybe Rihanna) for their first time and thought "Diamonds in the sky... Huh... What if...".

[–] rusticus@lemm.ee 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Can we use zirconium for $1 trillion?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

How much if we use rhinestones?

[–] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 days ago

I'm still set on "we're fucked" until I see some more hopeful news.

When we are fucked and who is first fucked, and making sure I'm not that guy is what I'm trying to determine.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

I don't get it, why wouldn't sapphire dust work? Isn't that dirt cheap to make? And it's carbon free!
Seems illogical to add carbon in the form of diamond, to a problem that is mostly caused by carbon?

[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 6 days ago (2 children)

The carbon isn't the problem, it's the CO2 molecule. I would be really curious if solid carbon in diamond form is able to react with ozone in the atmosphere to make CO2, or if it would be inert, or if it would do something else.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It's also Methane and CO, gasses that also contain carbon. I know diamond is pretty stable, but it does burn, and then it creates the gasses we try to avoid.

[–] naught101@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

CO is not a significant greenhouse gas. (And N20 is..)

Are diamond particulates likely to burn if they're dispersed in the atmosphere?

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Are diamond particulates likely to burn if they’re dispersed in the atmosphere?

Actually yes, if they enter the engine of a plane they will burn.

[–] naught101@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago (2 children)

True. That would be a minescule fraction of what's there though..

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Not quite minuscule, for every ton of jet fuel burned, 2 tons of oxygen is needed, to take that in, about 3-4 ton of atmospheric air goes through the combustion, the volume of that air is quite a lot, and is only sustained because oxygen is constantly renewed. The diamonds will not have self sustained renewal and will be burned up pretty quickly.
Also being an aerosol increases surface and potential chemical reactions by a magnitude of maybe a billion per unit, so although we consider diamonds to be very stable in their normal form, a diamond aerosol is obviously much less so, and UV light refracted could accelerate break down of the diamond aerosol, into free carbon, which will create carbon gasses. I bet researchers have considered this, but I see no numbers for it?

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

I just wonder why not use sapphire dust instead. Doesn't it reflect sunlight almost identically?

[–] Infinite@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 days ago

No reactions, just reflections. The premise is "bounce the heat before it can be trapped."

The main reason they looked at diamond this time is because it's very clump resistant, which is a positive for heat deflection.

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