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[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 143 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Lmao 2.5kg of meat? Forget it. If you got any, it was a day to celebrate. You couldn't get shit for stamps and you had to stand in long queues to get the scraps that you could get. You waited for hours for a delivery that immediately disappeared or didn't come at all. You literally bought what you could. People used to barter the stamps and a grey market to get what you needed popped up. The only way to get what you wanted was to pay with dollars.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 41 points 1 week ago (5 children)

You sound like you were actually there? If so, please continue.

[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 97 points 1 week ago (2 children)

My wife was born in ( but too late to remember) a former Soviet state.

Talking with her grandma is pretty interesting. Recently with global inflation, some of the grandmas friends were speaking fondly about government controlled price of bread.

Then my grandma (in law) who still has more of her marbles than any 91 year old I've ever met said "lol, yeah that was the price on the sign, but there was no bread in the store!"

"Ooooohhhhh yyyeeaaaaahhhh....."

[–] superkret@feddit.org 33 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

The Soviet Union was a fun place. People whose great grandparents happened to be German were put on a train to Kyrgistan and just dumped out onto the steppe.
The 50% who survived the first winter and actually managed to build up villages were later banned from buying or selling at the local market, forcing them into the black market to survive, which was obviously illegal as well.
But they weren't allowed to emigrate to Germany either.

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[–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"would you like your tea with no milk or no cream?"

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[–] NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world 104 points 1 week ago (2 children)

That's like, half a days worth of vodka

[–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 30 points 1 week ago (4 children)
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[–] wrekone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 61 points 1 week ago (1 children)

0.5 liter of vodka? What were they supposed to do the other 29 days of the month?

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[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 59 points 1 week ago (4 children)

ah 12 packs of cigarettes and a half a litre of vodka. a complete balanced breakfast.

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[–] Shiggles@sh.itjust.works 58 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Would they have been expected to grow their own vegetables, or did they just embrace the average young male diet?

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 71 points 1 week ago (7 children)

I believe vegetables weren't rationed

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[–] Zementid@feddit.nl 38 points 1 week ago (2 children)

That is around 970 calories a day if you take 1/30th of each edible item on the Table.

It's not enough, but surprisingly almost half the needed amount.

[–] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 27 points 1 week ago (3 children)

If Poland is anything like the US, families were expected to keep a garden where they grew many vegetables and fruits, and often kept chickens.

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[–] Fandangalo@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] kindenough@kbin.earth 16 points 1 week ago

Thank you for the effort, that was an interesting read.

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[–] otp@sh.itjust.works 35 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I find it funny that a lot of people seem to be assuming that this is everything that they were allowed to eat. Fruits and veggies have been completely banned, in this world! Haha

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

Fruit is often hard to grow, but simple veggies like potatoes and onions are a no-brainer. Garlic too!

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[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Sounds like a miserable existence. You're going to need a lot more vodka than that to cope.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 38 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Rationing in the early 80s is considered to be one of the major agitating factors that led to increased labor union activity and, thus, the eventual end of the Communist regime in Poland. Would seem that it was not nearly enough vodka to quietly cope!

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

I can see why. Like if I was flat broke, these rations would be super welcome, but as an ongoing totality of what I could have for all of my labor? No, fuck that! The people at the top were obviously hoarding all the wealth, which seems to always happen every time this form of government is tried.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Well, you still had to purchase the food, you were just limited by ration cards in how much of certain goods you could purchase.

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[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 27 points 1 week ago

I was trying to figure out how to make it work for week but a month?

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago (5 children)

12 packs of cigs seems like a huge luxury

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[–] Eiri@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Their priorities were fucked up. Cigarettes and alcohol, obviously, but more sugar than rice? Huh?

Also, lots of meat but no other food groups?

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago

Elsewhere in the comments it's mentioned that these were just the rationed things; there were unrationed foodstuffs.

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[–] seaQueue@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Four and a half kilos of carbohydrates and sugars, goddamn.

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

For a month, that’s only about 600 kcal/day from carbs. Maybe potatoes are unrationed.

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[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 week ago

This is what Conservatives around the world want and glory hallelujah we are almost there! The only difference is all those rations will not come from the government but from corporations paid for by the government.

  • 4 boxes Kraft Mac and Cheese
  • 6 cans Heinz Beans
  • Etc.
[–] kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Unpopular opinion: we need to ration electricity consumption as well as fuel today, even in capitalists countries. Because that stuff actually has incredible impact on the planet, and will (must) drive consumption down, so that companies / individuals start integrating "efficiency" into their thinking

I don't see any other solution to the "exponentially growing power consumption" problem.

[–] bitcrafter@programming.dev 21 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I don’t see any other solution to the “exponentially growing power consumption” problem.

In the U.S., at least, power generation has been roughly flat for the last 20 years, not growing exponentially:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electricity_sector_of_the_United_States#/media/File:Timeline_of_U.S._electricity_generation_by_major_energy_source.png

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