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Ok, I am not supporting bestiality here. But, I just came to know about a Dogxim, a dog fox hybrid and I had known for a long time that horses and donkeys can breed (to produce a mule). So, I was just curious, can humans breed with any other animals closely related to us?

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[–] kambusha@sh.itjust.works 171 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Tinder not working out as expected?

[–] Subject6051@lemmy.ml 83 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Why else would I ask that question? Completely unrelated but you won't happen to have any goats nearby, would you?

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 140 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (21 children)

Homo sapiens are the last remaining species of hominina. Our closest remaining relatives, the Pan (chimpanzees and bonobos) diverged at least 6.5 million years ago. Though there is some evidence early hominina may have interbred with pan after the divergence as recently as 4 mya.

This is more recent than dogs and foxes by a long way, and about the same as donkeys and horses. That, plus chromosomal analysis and some other research suggests it could be possible for a human and chimp or bonobo to interbreed, though likely not create fertile offspring. However, there has never been a confirmed case of this occurring, despite multiple claims.

Edit: useful articles:

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Because of that one caveman, we are all shamed forever.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 28 points 1 week ago

We’re talking way earlier than cavemen. The last interbreeding between our ancestors and chimps’ ancestors happened (using the most recent estimate I could find) a million years before the least recent evidence of the use of any stone tools. This is not a human that would be recognisable at all as a human.

[–] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 week ago

Welp, now I am curious. There are like 10 billion of us, this can't not happen.

[–] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

Excellent answer!

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[–] Alsephina@lemmy.ml 116 points 1 week ago (4 children)
[–] Subject6051@lemmy.ml 48 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There must have been a misunderstanding, when I said I want to "eat pussy", this is not what I meant

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[–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 1 week ago (3 children)

i didnt fuck my cat. i didnt cum on my cat. i didnt put my dick anywhere near my cat. Ive never done anything weird with my cats.

[–] Subject6051@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"I did not have has any sexual relations with that cat"

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[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There is a good reason for that image.

here be psychic dragonsA cat is fine too

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[–] arthur@lemmy.zip 86 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Not anymore. We assimilated the neanderthals a long time ago.

Other close relative species don't exist anymore.

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[–] fixmycode@feddit.cl 74 points 1 week ago

talking to girls is not that hard, dude

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 65 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

I just found this, so you'll have to read it too: https://www.the-sun.com/news/3657105/prostitute-orangutan-pony-tragic-story/

Summary:

TW: sexual animal abuseFemale orangutan named Pony was used as a prostitute for years. She was chained to a bed, shaved every other day leaving her with irritated, itchy, sore-covered skin. They also put make-up, perfume and jewellery on her, and taught her to perform sex acts. The local community didn't want to let her go because she was generating great revenue. In the end it took 35 armed police officers to rescue her.

[–] dingus@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] Cysioland@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I'm gonna regret asking this, but is there a better source than The Sun?

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Welp. That’s fucking awful.

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[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 65 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

No, not since Neanderthals, Denisovians and friends went extinct.

Even Neanderthals are a bit of a partial case, since the hybrid males were mostly sterile. We know this from the pattern that Neanderthal genes appear in modern DNA.

[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Where can one read more on the second paragraph?

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 26 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Uhh, I think there was a Nature article about it. Per the Wikipedia, basically there's just stretches of the X chromosome that are deserts of Neanderthal DNA, because when a Neanderthal allele is present and there isn't a second copy, it's a reproductive dead end and selected out.

Oh, here.

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[–] HorikBrun@kbin.earth 55 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Breed with? No, not since we out-bred and out-competed Neandertals. And Denisovans. And at least one other ancestral human subspecies in sub-Saharan Africa. So at least 3 ancient homo sapiens subspecies that we used to interbreed with, but none left now.

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We still have their genes, so we've got that going for us...

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[–] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 48 points 1 week ago

Conventional prehistory says there used to be animals we could interbreed with, but that we in fact bred with them so much that the hybrids replaced the creatures made to get said hybrid.

These replaced peoples were, of course, designated members of the homo genus, which Homo Sapiens (the scientific name for humans) gets its name from, and they include things such as (using their common names, not their scientific names) Neanderthals (geographically found in Southern Europe), Denisovans (found mostly to the West, towards Asia), and Hobbits (yes, hobbits, they were found in the Pacific). Nothing of note happened in America.

The Neanderthals and the Denisovans are of particular note, as their territories overlapped commonly, and there are cave findings that show they themselves interbred with each other and produced perfectly functioning offspring. I can only hope when they were engaging in the act, they asked to mingle and ended it with "no homo".

There are, however, reports that, at the same time in prehistory, we did try to breed with other animals that haven't been replaced, typically the great apes, as evidenced by lice samples found in both us and them, but that this, quite expectedly, didn't lead to any hybrid outcomes.

[–] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 44 points 1 week ago (7 children)

There used to be Neanderthals (homo sapiens neanderthalensis) and a few others, we basically interbred them out of existence.

[–] Florn@hexbear.net 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

"Interbred them out of existence" is sort of a bleak way of looking at it. For a lot of people, they're our ancestors. They're a part of human history and heritage.

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[–] No_Money_Just_Change@feddit.org 44 points 1 week ago (2 children)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humanzee

There were multiple attempts to cross humans and chimpanzees, all of which failed. However, through gene editing, human-chimpanzee and human-pig chimeras were created.
These are just normal animals, but their inner organs are made to be compatible for human organ donation.

[–] Viri4thus@feddit.org 42 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Your mom!

*sorry, 80s nostalgia hit hard for a second there.

[–] Subject6051@lemmy.ml 25 points 1 week ago

At least wait till I ask a question about a cow or something

[–] Dungrad@feddit.org 39 points 1 week ago (2 children)
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[–] theywilleatthestars@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Not since the Neanderthals left us

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Neanderthals didn’t leave us; they merged with us. Neanderthal DNA is well represented in our current population.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Yeah, but not their whole genome, and never at more then a few percent of the total modern human genome. It's more like a remnant.

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[–] Subject6051@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 week ago

That's absolutely preposterous, I am still alive and my friends say I am one of them Neanderthals

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[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 1 week ago (1 children)

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[–] Hestia@hexbear.net 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm not supporting beastiality here... BUT

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[–] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

Asking for a friend?

[–] Juice@midwest.social 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)
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[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 week ago

Kim Kardashian?

[–] glans@hexbear.net 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If such a thing was currently possible, you'd know about it.

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[–] keepcarrot@hexbear.net 13 points 1 week ago

I assume closely related hominids which are now extinct. Neanderthal DNA is present in current human strains, which means they didn't even speciate (though potentially successful gestation was rarer).

Why am I writing like an alien nerd observing humans?

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (3 children)

There were rumors of a human/chimp hybrid decades ago:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humanzee

Despite the existence of Oliver, it still seems unproven:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oliver_(chimpanzee)

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

The Nazis & the Japanese experimented with this as well. AFAIK neither faction ever achieved anything resembling success. Fertilization occurs, but then immediately stops as there's no compatibility, and the cells die.

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In terms of human PokΓ©mon compatibility /ref

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