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[–] Nitrate55@lemmy.dbzer0.com 219 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Can't really make apps for a site that doesn't have an API. They did announce recently that Kbin's API is nearly done, so soon there'll be a flood of Kbin apps as well, and support for Kbin in all of the Lemmy apps too

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 63 points 1 year ago (5 children)

and support for Kbin in all of the Lemmy apps

Very much doubt. I'm sure many will but not all. The API isn't identical so they'd have to commit to maintaining both.

[–] Nitrate55@lemmy.dbzer0.com 45 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yeah I suppose not all of them will want to commit to supporting Kbin, but some definitely will. Honestly though, so long as it's possible to search for and subscribe to Kbin magazines from Lemmy, that's all I really care about.

[–] atocci@kbin.social 25 points 1 year ago (4 children)

If nothing else, the Sync developer said he'd do it.

[–] Enasni@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Memmy dev said they plan to as well but “not within this year” if I recall correctly.

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[–] zelifcam@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It would be great if someone created a fediverse browser native app. Log into all the platforms and add a translation layer to create a truly unique experience. Maybe it would only make sense if you could authenticate one account on all the activitypub platforms? I understand the amount of technical hurdles and maintenance to do so. I suppose I find the thought of experiencing them combined intriguing. If someone created A single app experience, in a intuitive way, I’d definitely give it a try. I can see lemmy posts on mastidon. Would be kind of cool if it could handle that and display those posts using a lemmy ui. But making it seamless.

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[–] SamXavia@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

@Nitrate55 I can't wait to be able to use Kbin on the go, I'm really gonna have nothing be done at that point

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[–] victron@lemmy.world 67 points 1 year ago (3 children)

before the whole reddit clusterfuck and blackout started I created both kbin and lemmy accounts. One of those is just gathering dust

[–] danielton@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Yeah, I have a kbin account as well, but I prefer Lemmy so far, since it actually has a data API and I prefer the web interface over that of kbin (and now we have old.lemmy.world!)

I am test driving Artemis for kbin, but Hariette and her team have an uphill battle until kbin comes up with an API, so development has been slow. Not their fault, of course.

[–] hariette@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

API is almost done! Been using an internal build of the app that uses Artemis’ kbin instance with those changes. And oh god is so much better 👌

So we’re nearing a point where apps for kbin will start popping up ✨

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[–] victron@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (4 children)

The more options the better. For now Lemmy is good and the apps are progressing at an awesome pace, honestly didn't expect that.

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[–] omgitsaheadcrab@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

TIL about old.lemmy.world, cool!

[–] wason@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's also m.lemmy.world running Voyager (formerly wefwef).

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[–] bandario@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Same. I just don't have a reason to use kbin. The interface is not my cup of tea and I don't like the way they've handled communities or 'mAgAzInEs'.

[–] victron@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Yeah, also the fact that they have... microblogging or something? I have mastodon for that.

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[–] TauZero@mander.xyz 61 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] crazybrain@lemmy.spacestation14.com 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The great part of images in comments is that they can complete a meme.

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[–] Ultra980@lemmy.world 60 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If only kbin had an API...

[–] MarsRT@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I was thinking of making my first attempt at an android app a kbin app because of the lack of options, but their documentation (while done really well so far) isn't fleshed out yet.

Lemmy's Documentation is very confusing to me as someone still learning to program (does it get better when you are more experienced???), but it's definitely a lot more fleshed out, so that's why I'm attempting to make just another Lemmy client looool

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[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 32 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I'm about to launch a Lemmy app (by Monday, my friend yelled at me when he found out I'd been using it exclusively for weeks without putting up a beta), and kbin support is on my to-do list.

Frankly, I started using Lemmy, saw this could be the thing I've been waiting for, and decided the edges were too rough. So I made the app I always wanted for Reddit with the goal of using multiple servers, multiple accounts seamlessly. My guiding philosophy is making the client into another layer of federation,

I checked out the kbin docs and I can probably knock it out in a couple days, I've got abstraction layers to handle different versions and forks of Lemmy... Head over to !flemmy@lemmy.world and let me know this is something people want and I'll put it higher on the priority list

[–] SiyahGuraag@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago

Artemis developer said they're gonna public source the code soonand their app supports both Lemmy and Kbin, which might help you with Kbin support. Just a suggestion, I know nothing about how code works, though.

[–] redcalcium@c.calciumlabs.com 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If you add support for kbin, you'll probably going to add support for kbin's microblogging feature. If you added support for kbin's microblogging, might as well add mastodon support. Heck, might as well add pixelfed support to the mix, why not? Voila, now you have a super federated app.

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[–] steve228uk@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Kbin should have prioritised their API rather than adding microblogging to a platform that didn’t need it.

[–] bitsplease@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 year ago

The addition of microblogging is the main draw for me

I just want to be able to browse lemmy/kbin and mastodon with a single login

[–] simonweiss@lemmy.ml 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] Holodeck_Moriarty@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Isn't that what the RIF dev is making?

[–] suzyq@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Yes! He linked to the post over on tildes prior to shutting down RIF.

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[–] danielton@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I heard Tildes discourages app development because they think apps go against the purpose of the site.

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[–] redcalcium@c.calciumlabs.com 29 points 1 year ago

It's not 3rd party app developers fault that kbin didn't have any stable api yet. Now that they fast track the api development, I think we can expect more 3rd party apps coming soon.

[–] VM_Abrantes@kbin.social 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Whoever ends up doing so should set up the interface so that Lemmy posts are blue and kbin posts green, that way Lemmy users can downvote us and call us poor.

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[–] mintiefresh@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

These things take time and once KBin releases its API, the mobile apps will start flowing.

I'm pretty excited for that and will give KBin a try once that happens.

[–] Blazingflames6073@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

There is nothing to do because kbin hasn't released a working api yet

[–] aeharding@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Lenny’s API is really approachable and Kbins is still WIP

[–] FreeloadingSponger@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I still have absolutely no idea what the difference between lemmy, kbin and mastodon is.

[–] Maajmaaj@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Mastodon operates kinda like twitter, while Lemmy operates like reddit. Kbin operates like reddit, but with the ability to follow users and their blogs and posts, kinda like following someone on twitter. This probably isn't the best description though.

[–] toastedenough@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Kbin is more like Facebook in my opinion

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[–] ExpensiveConstant@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago

The API is going through code review right now!

[–] zoe@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] KaK@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 year ago (8 children)

How do you like connect? I've been using Jerboa but wouldn't mind checking some others apps out

[–] zoe@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

personally it is kinda superior to Jerboa, since it has a feature that is my favourite: keyword filter, but also i can browse instances that can be defederated from each other, all the fediverse in one app: could even browse hexbear.net (which is not federated with no one), kbin.social, ..all on the app (and can browse instances as a guest without an account, which makes things way eaiser. unlimited block list. no bugs. it was suggested to me and i keep suggesting it for others since i didnt regret using it.

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[–] Zana@startrek.website 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah I left Kbin for this purpose.

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[–] people_are_cute@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is kbin not lemmy? I can subscribe to kbin communities through my Lemmy instance though?

[–] travysh@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago

They both use ActivityPub, which is why the content is shared. But they're different software.

[–] genoxidedev1@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Personally can't wait for Artemis to come out by the description it sounds very much like an 3rd Party App that I would love to death

[–] hariette@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Working hard on it! Can’t wait for API to go live to make it widely available.

I wrote an API adapter layer to be able to support both kbin and lemmy in the app. Want to open source that as a package, so hopefully more apps can easily add support for both 🤞

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