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Summary

USPS plans to continue its EV transition despite resistance from Trump’s team.

Postmaster General Louis DeJoy affirmed the $3 billion electrification effort, funded by last year’s climate bill, as “business sense,” with 75% of the fleet targeted for electrification by 2026.

Trump’s team aims to cancel contracts, favoring gas-powered vehicles.

USPS has ordered 66,000 EVs by 2028, including vehicles from Oshkosh and Ford.

While critics argue against high costs, USPS maintains that legislative action would be required to halt its EV plans, which aim to modernize its 217,000-vehicle fleet.

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[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 154 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

The only sane thing DeJoy wants to do. The USPS fleet is grossly outdated and electric vehicles make perfect engineering sense for distribution routes with lots of stop/start and idling. It'll lower their overall maintenance budget by tens of millions easy.

[–] Bronzebeard@lemm.ee 119 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

It's happening despite DeJoy. He tried to commission ICEs with even worse mpg than the current fleet. Congress said hell no

[–] empty04@lemmy.world 63 points 2 weeks ago

despite DeJoy

Exactly this. Scrapping of automated sorting machines and reversal of fleet electrification plans were the first two things he did back in 2020.

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Sounds like simple math saved the day here.

[–] Bronzebeard@lemm.ee 13 points 2 weeks ago

More like Democrats were able to stop republicans from purposely making government inefficient.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Which ones were that? I know the ICE version of the NGDV was publicized as having similar gas mileage to the current LLV models, but that's with aircon turned on. The LLVs don't even have aircon.

[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's kinda hard to get worse MPG than the current LLV. The old iron duke engine aint exactly efficient. Plus the NGDV is a bigger car that can carry more. So if it gets the same MPG but is doing more work then is it really worse?

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Curb weight is an enormous efficiency factor for stop-and-go without regenerative braking. Old vehicles can be surprisingly efficient in certain areas if they’re light.

I guess it depends on how much more it carries, but it’s also “wasting” energy moving so much more around at once.

[–] Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io 27 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

This is the weirdest timeline. Here I am agreeing with DeJoy, who I've advocated be removed from office, literally for YEARS. smh.

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 2 weeks ago

Even broken clocks that have been driven over by a semitruck can still be right twice a day.

[–] Cenzorrll@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago

Nah, you're good. They're moving forward with this despite DeJoy

[–] ThomasCrappersGhost@feddit.uk 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I need to know how anyone thinks ICE vehicles makes sense given these facts. Unless it’s some kind of bribe.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

It’s literally a bribe. Fossil fuel companies handsomely funded Trump, publicly. ICE companies are courting him now.

The ostensible justification is that EVs are woke nonsense, like wind power. That’s it. But really they don’t even bother with that anymore, no explanation is required.

[–] Bronzebeard@lemm.ee 63 points 2 weeks ago

Because Congress forced it to, after DeJoy tried to lock in an order for millions of 4 mpg shitmobiles

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 34 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I wonder if people understand what a massive threat this is. The destruction of the United States Postal Service would be catastrophic. These private companies that are circling around here rely on the Postal Service. A lot of them only do the final leg of deliveries, if even that. They rely on the postal service for a lot of the in-between work. Meaning of the Postal Service collapses as they seem to be trying to cause then they'll be no one to cover the in-between Services except them. Meaning their prices will Skyrocket.

[–] ThomasCrappersGhost@feddit.uk 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I’m well aware I’m being obtuse here, but how did you get from electrification of USPS vehicles to the complete destruction of USPS?

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Trump tried to fuckup the post office during his last term.

Cancelling a project that is in progress and closer to its completion than its start will cause chaos and financial harm to the organization.

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 31 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Just a reminder that Republicans have the Presidency, Congress, and the Supreme Court of the US. Enjoy the fossil fuels.

[–] enbyecho@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I hear that if you huff gas enough it all makes sense.

[–] formergijoe@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Make Gasoline Leaded Again!

[–] Klear@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

Gasoline
Oil
Petrol

[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 22 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Ah yes, DeJoy is suddenly the defender of all things right with USPS because they held a sham "grilling" in the House. Please, give me a break.

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

He's just another CEO tbh, but the only shred of credit I'm willing to give him is that he's not a profit ghoul by total choice, that would be the bill passed in 1970 in retaliation for the largest wildcat strike in US history. Nixon put the USPS into billions of debt.

[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 22 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

He's a self serving piece of shit that made fat donations to republicans and got installed with no prior experience to serve Trump's agenda of destroying USPS. His leadership have caused medicine deliveries to fail, food packages to expire, and put mail-in voting at risk. I won't let this congressional performance and the media's complicity in it white wash his record.

https://www.citizen.org/article/guaranteed-delivery-dejoys-post-office-corruption/

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

He's a self serving piece of shit that made fat donations to republicans and got installed with no prior experience to serve Trump's agenda

Like I said, just another CEO. I'm glad you added some context for this, because he's definitely a huge piece of shit tearing apart the fabric of a functional government.

[–] Cort@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

To anyone thinking they agree with DeJoy allow me to rephrase this:

USPS maintains that legislative action would be required to halt its EV plans wink wink, nudge nudge

[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

At the same time, laws can be challenged by blue states in friendly courts, tying things up. That's even if it passes. The house is down to 5 seats, many of them were mighty, mighty close. They will fuck us often mind you, but the mid hanging fruit will be hard to pluck. Rolling this back will affect 1000 jobs in Tennessee, so suddenly you have opposition in the GOP.

[–] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 weeks ago

The platform is drivetrain agnostic anyway, as the ICE engines wear out the chassis will accept the BEV drivetrain.

[–] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

I'm excited for when my post man gets one.

[–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It’s still amazing that this South Carolina Republican would screw over his own constituents. For what benefit? To show loyalty to Trump? GOP is all about party over country.

[–] YippieKyeAy@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

I wonder if the new scout factory is his is district too. Interesting the state swoons these EV companies to invest in their state and then screw them over, actually not surprising it’s pretty on par for their party.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

So now we'll see that the president could have fired DeJoy all along.

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Little boys want to have every vehicle go vroom vroom.

[–] Subverb@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I still think of the current LLVs as the "new" postal vehicles despite the newest of them having been built in 1994. When I was a kid they drove the cute little Jeeps.

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

vehicles that do a lot of stop and go very locally. shit put solar panels on the roofs.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

People would have hated it, but if they partnered with Google years ago, they could have gotten street view hooked up to the USPS trucks and got updating street views and maps fairly regularly, while outsourcing some of the costs to them, probably 10 years to late though.

[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

As long as they don't go postal, all's good

[–] bulwark@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Do they have to make the mail trucks look so ... dumb? I'm all for shifting to electric but those look ridiculous.

[–] Bbbbbbbbbbb@lemmy.world 36 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

They may look odd but the drivers love them miles above the current vehicles and they were built with safety in mind first. So yes, they look like that on purpose

[–] Wrench@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I can see how that deep windshield would help navigate tight spots / ensure you can see pets and children, low retaining walls, curbs, etc. These trucks mostly need to navigate surface streets and unfamiliar residential which can have tight spaces like long and narrow gravel driveways / access roads.

Makes total sense to me. Hope they have backup cameras too

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] Bbbbbbbbbbb@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I think it looks neat, and we’ll all get use to it just like we got use to calling a Nintendo console a “Wii.”

The unique proportions are to maximize visibility and safety. It’s not just trying to be odd to make a statement or to differentiate it.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 9 points 2 weeks ago

Like an elephant sat on the bonnet of a Fiat Multipla.

[–] nulluser@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

To hell with safety! Screw the comfort of the drivers that have to spend hours a day in it. Let's make sure @bulwark never has to look at something they find displeasing.