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[–] gibmiser@lemmy.world 88 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

No, don't throw the younger generations under the bus to clean up our messes.

If nothing else we are ride or die with them.

[–] iheartneopets@lemm.ee 21 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Unfortunately you won't die with us, you'll die much sooner, not choking on a lack of oxygen or dying of dehydration.

We need more elders like those in Japan who volunteered to clean up nuclear waste because they wouldn't have to live with the long-term side effects of being exposed to radiation.

As elders, y'all wouldn't have to live as long in jail ¯\(ツ)

[–] Alteon@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

I mean. Heck, if you have a terminal illness I don't see the downsides really.

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[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 77 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (11 children)

General strike in the US seems like less of an impossibility year by year

Just restating some of the greatest hits:

  1. Universal healthcare

  2. Universal education through university level or trade school

  3. At least a month pto annually

  4. Parental leave for births

  5. Guaranteed sick leave

  6. 32hr new full time threshold before overtime

  7. Only public, equal funds for elections, no PACs/dark money/donations, no lobbyist bribes

  8. Any elected official over a certain level cannot engage in trading of individual stocks or own businesses, dump it all in an index fund or hand off management to someone else they cannot contact without a mediator and recording, immediate expulsion & no longer able to hold office when found in violation

  9. No billionaires/oligarchs, anyone with earnings and assets over a billion should be taxed at 100% and assets redistributed

Edit: May 1st 2028 looks like a good target thanks to the UAW https://www.thenation.com/article/activism/general-strike-2028-unions-labor-movement/

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 21 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Nothing about replacing First-past-the-post voting?

[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Campaign finance reform under 7 would allow further reforms to follow, without those regulatory capture and bribery are legal and prevent any other electoral reforms benefiting the working class.

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[–] DogWater@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Remember when the railroad threatened to strike and nacy pelosi said they would throw them in jail if they didn't go to work.....fucking unreal.

A few take aways:

They need us so fucking bad

They will do anything to maintain control

No one at that level is fighting for you

Solidarity will be hard to achieve because those threats will be too much for people on the ropes in their day to day life to endure.

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[–] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Why not beta test a general strike on Jan 6, 2025?

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Because then they'll think it's about Harris, when she would've just delayed it.

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[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 53 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

When you take away people's reason to live, their time, their hobbies, their ability to raise a family, their loved ones, you make those people very desperate...

...you might not be glad that you did.

glares in Nick Fury

[–] weeeeum@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago

"The most dangerous man is the man with nothing to lose"

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 7 points 2 weeks ago

very apt quote.

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 35 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Who's to say you can't get conscripted out of prison to die in the climate wars?

[–] ODGreen@slrpnk.net 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Russia already is doing this!

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

They're so ahead of the times!

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 7 points 2 weeks ago

Surrender and/or nade the commissar tent?

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 34 points 2 weeks ago

With the suicide rate as high as it is, I’m honestly shocked more people don’t try to take these scumbags with them.

[–] shittydwarf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

There's only so many CEOs and billionaires

[–] lefaucet@slrpnk.net 29 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

And they're stuck in here with us

[–] 1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca 20 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

jail is not fun. no computer.

[–] repungnant_canary@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] grue@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

Which country has both abusive crony-capitalist billionaire CEOs and fun jail?

[–] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 5 points 2 weeks ago

By 2028 this may be possible idk.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 17 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

For me American prison sounds a lot worse than whatever comes from climate change, so personally I'd pick that.

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (9 children)

For now. Give it a few decades when the effects of climate change start forcing people out of their homes, cause widespread crop failure, kill thousands with heatwaves and storms, etc.

If you're choice is between

  1. losing your home, starving to death, or in some way dying in the streets

Or

  1. losing your home, starving to death, or in some way dying in the streets after holding those responsible to account a la the adjuster

More and more people will choose option 2.

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[–] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Plus the two aren't mutually exclusive. You could just as easily go to prison and then just be abandoned there once the climate becomes uninhabitable anyway. Wouldn't be the first time:

Back in 2005, when Katrina hit New Orleans, prison guards abandoned prisoners in locked cells as the floodwaters rose chest-high. Several thousand of those inmates were eventually rescued, but then miserably housed on a broken piece of interstate, directly exposed to the Southern summer sun.

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[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 16 points 2 weeks ago
[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Or be like me and try to do such a deed then realize your bad aim in video games carry over IRL, then you get shot dead by their security and go to some purgatory with this moment replayed forever, reminding you how much of a failure you were.

The only reason I don't want to try is because if I miss, its gonna be so embarassing, I don't even wanna thinkg about it.

[–] Ceedoestrees@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

I bet that's why poisoning was so big before guns. Like who has the time to learn archery.

[–] Elaine@lemm.ee 8 points 2 weeks ago

This would be me if I took the three squares with free housing and healthcare route.

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 16 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

3 squares a day and lots of admiration vs unlimited access to distraction-ary cat pics

[–] Snailpope@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago

I did electrical work at a state prison in Nebraska a couple times. Most of the inmates had tablets with semi restricted internet access. So they still get the cat pics

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 weeks ago

Some prisons let you have a kitty

[–] AnnaFrankfurter@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 weeks ago

I say we embrace the French culture and take up guillotines.

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Who would win?

2700 soft nerds with at least one billion small pieces of paper each

VS

300 million chimps with access to the internet and Mountain Dew™

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[–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 8 points 2 weeks ago

on the plus side, i now know that if a climate disaster doesn't do me in, the french revolution 2 electric boogaloo will

[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

This is the way

[–] Damionsipher@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Why not both? I have a strong suspicion the climate wars are going also be a class wars. Although, if the common folk won't, getting jailed for war crimes against the rich may never be prosecuted 🤷‍♂️

[–] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 8 points 2 weeks ago

Aren't all wars?

[–] peteypete420@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Hey maybe someone will spend life in prison for disposing a president ele... better not finish typing that one out

[–] grue@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

Two people have tried, so far.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Intentional heroin overdose

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[–] tywarth@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Even better, a European CEO, where prisons are nice and cozy.

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[–] fantasyocean@lemmy.myserv.one 5 points 2 weeks ago

Lol, like anyone here is going to do anything other than protect their own comforts

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