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[–] preussischblau@lemmy.ca 185 points 4 weeks ago (7 children)

It's gonna get down to -30°C this week, I'll turn the heat off and just throw on the good ol' toque and a sweater and report back, assuming I still have fingers.

[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 64 points 4 weeks ago (5 children)

Same here.

But there is middle-ground here. My wife came from a very temperate country. She wants the thermostat set at like, 26.

I'd be happy to have it at 17 and wear sleeves indoors. 9 degrees thermostat difference makes a hell of a dent in the utility bill.

[–] preussischblau@lemmy.ca 22 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Agreed. Funnily I'm from a more temperature country and she's from where I'm at now, but she's the one that is always cold and wants to keep it at ~22. I ain't gonna argue considering she pays the electricity bill, though.

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[–] Fosheze@lemmy.world 14 points 4 weeks ago (5 children)

26?! Hell, I can't even sleep if it's above like 20C in my room. My bedroom right now is 10C (vents blocked to keep it extra cold) and that's about the perfect sleeping temp. I'd go that cold in the rest of the house too but my pet snake probably wouldn't appreciate it.

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[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 174 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (39 children)

Guys if you keep heating your houses to 15°C or more you're the cause for climate change and the corporations can't blow petawatts on their AI data centers c'mon don't be so selfish

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 25 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

My flat grows mold if I leave it under 18C for too long and my landlord doesn't care 🥴

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[–] xavier_berthiaume@jlai.lu 21 points 4 weeks ago

Yeah how else will ChatGPT tell you how to distribute (a^2 +b^2)(c^2+d^2)? /s

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[–] Red_October@lemmy.world 68 points 4 weeks ago (15 children)

Must be nice living somewhere where you don't even know that pipes can freeze.

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[–] db2@lemmy.world 63 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

Never mind things like water, pets, children...

[–] DharmaCurious@startrek.website 41 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (9 children)

Yeah, nah, I'm on the side of the government paying for utilities. Human right to electricity. Figure out a system to prevent overuse, but everyone deserves to have heating and cooling when needed.

That said, definitely wear a sweater in the winter if you can. Acclimate to the season and you'll hate going outside a lot less, and need less heating in the winter. I typically don't heat most of my home in the winter (I don't have central heating). I just use a space heater in whatever room I'm in, and move it to the next room with me, and wear warm clothes. I'm in Tennessee, which routinely gets well below freezing in the winter. Not ideal, but it works

[–] renzev@lemmy.world 49 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

Figure out a system to prevent overuse

If we're going down the "government should pay for it" route, then a good solution would be subsidizing thermal insulation. It's a big investment upfront, but will save a lot of money for both homeowners and the government in the future. Not to mention the obvious ecological benefits.

[–] dharmacurious@slrpnk.net 15 points 4 weeks ago

Absolutely. We should be subsidizing anything and everything that helps decrease energy usage, especially in ways that mean we don't have to make big changes to lifestyle. Though that's a whole other discussion. :/ But utilities in general, electricity, water, Internet, gas (though if possible move that shit to electric) should be public and no cost at the point of use, imho

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[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 54 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

If a sweaters enough you must live in a warm ass place.

[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 13 points 4 weeks ago

God, I recall when we lost power for a week in the middle of a freeze, it was so cold that my multiple blankets weren't enough to keep me warm when trying to sleep. I had to break out a nasty comforter that I've got that doesn't breathe at all and gets real sweaty during normal weather. Worked well to lock in the heat.

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[–] bruhduh@lemmy.world 48 points 4 weeks ago (7 children)
[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 21 points 4 weeks ago

If I'm spending 10 minutes walking between buildings and then an hour sitting in them I'd rather be comfortable for the longer amount of time.

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[–] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 45 points 4 weeks ago (9 children)

This meme brought to you by a child in California that doesn't know what real winter is. It was 20 something here last night and this dipshit thinks a sweater is gonna keep you alive though that.

[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 36 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I live in Canada and tbh I'm with the Chad on this.

Not saying "turn off your furnace" but energy use (and cost) baloons exponentially based on how hot you have your thermostat set at. Lower your thermostat to the point where wearing a sweater indoors is enough and save money. It's not even just about the money, it'sresponsible energy usage.

And I'd be happy to subsidize the first X GJ/mo to help people keep themselves from freezing, but if people want their apartment to be the tropics that's gotta be on their dime.

Same with electricity. I'll subsidize keeping your lights on but I'm not paying you to mine crypto.

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[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

To be fair, you could wear winter gear 24/7. I lived like that for a bit. The real reasons we need heating are structural decay and pets. Pipes burst below 55 and pets don't do well below 65.

There are real reasons to heat your house besides just wanting to be warm.

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[–] Godric@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

20 something

Sweater wont keep you alive

Wait till you hear about the latest tech: two sweaters!

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[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 45 points 4 weeks ago (6 children)

I live in a relatively warm part of Canada and let me tell you a sweater alone is not enough 😭
There are plenty of places in the USA Midwest and Europe that get colder.

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[–] blind3rdeye@lemm.ee 39 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

People in this thread are hitting us with all sorts of whatabout stories with extreme conditions; and meanwhile I'm working in a office where people will come in and turn on the cooling because they just walked up some stairs, and then turn on the heating after they've sat down for a couple of minutes. No concept of self regulation. Just any hint of discomfort means the room has to change temperature.

It that context, the pushback in this thread is a bit depressing.

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[–] Shieldtoad@sh.itjust.works 36 points 4 weeks ago

I have to turn on the heater for my cats or else I'll suffer the consequences.

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 33 points 3 weeks ago (10 children)

Unethical life pro tip: get an apartment that isn't at the end of a hallway and has floors above and below. In some cases, you can turn off your heat completely and simply steal heat from your neighbors, leeching off of them like some sort of thermal mosquito. It won't be as warm as is comfortable without bundling up, but it may be warm enough to get by just by bundling up. Watch out for freezing pipes though!

For an added techno bonus: install a smart thermostat connected to a camera pointed at the door with facial recognition tech built in. If anyone other than the residents walk in, the thermostat is automatically reset to 72F/22C. That way if you DO burst a pipe, and the landlord walks in, they won't have any proof you did it!

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[–] RoyaltyInTraining@lemmy.world 31 points 3 weeks ago (11 children)

Blood circulation in my hands breaks down completely when I get cold, so no. I will not be turning down the heat.

[–] sidekickplayah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 3 weeks ago

Gloves wear big ass gloves use gloves that make your hands look like Mii character hands big ass spheres attached to the ends of your arms zero functionality just big ol gloves

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[–] ryedaft@sh.itjust.works 31 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Must be fun not to have any sensitivity issues and also live somewhere so south that a sweater is enough.

[–] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 25 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

OK, OP... where do you live that a sweater is "enough"?

Denver, CO checking in and I'll take my central heat, thanks.

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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 23 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

"This meme was made by someone in a warm climate."

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[–] BudgetBandit@sh.itjust.works 19 points 4 weeks ago (16 children)

Americans should start building their houses like Europeans. Made from brick, mortar and good insulation. Your houses are made from wood and paper.

[–] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 34 points 4 weeks ago

Nothing wrong with wood as a construction material. The key factor is the insulation.

[–] dafo@lemmy.world 29 points 4 weeks ago

looks around at countless houses made from wood I guess northern Sweden, which gets below -30°c every year, lost its European status.

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 28 points 4 weeks ago

This is.. Uninformed.

[–] Fosheze@lemmy.world 23 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

You do realize that there's insulation in those walls right. That's the whole point of wood frame construction; you stuff the gaps between studs full of several inches of insulation. Besides, most of a homes heat loss isn't through the walls anyways. It's through any openings in those walls (windows, doors, etc) and through the roof.

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[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.world 19 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (4 children)

My dumbass old housemates would run the heater without closing the windows…

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[–] TheMightyCanuck@sh.itjust.works 15 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

-40° and a newborn say otherwise

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[–] Corno@lemm.ee 15 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

-20 ºC winters have entered the chat

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Well fuck the people not near the equator amirite?

Your landlord not providing heat? Just wear a sweater, stop being such a entitled tenant! /s

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