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[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 83 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Not to worry, migrant labour will be replaced by prison labour. In fact, the prison work force will expand substantially.

[–] cranakis@reddthat.com 28 points 1 month ago (2 children)

But thanks to Reaganomics, prison turned to profits

'Cause free labor's the cornerstone of US economics

'Cause slavery was abolished, unless you are in prison

You think I am bullshittin', then read the 13th Amendment

Involuntary servitude and slavery it prohibits

That's why they givin' drug offenders time in double digits

Killer Mike - Reagan

[–] baldingpudenda@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Everybody should listen to Run the Jewels. Everyone should really hear the lyrics. That music should change the world. Plus it's fucking awesome.

And the crowd says

RTJ!

👊👈

[–] FalcoLombardi@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago

I listen to this song on a loop every time I stand in line to vote. Both major elections and midterms.

[–] pezhore@infosec.pub 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And hey, bonus - prison labor is basically free !

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

Hey man, it's not free. Those private prisons owners cost money and it's our duty as tax payers to make sure they can buy that 5th house.

[–] Breve@pawb.social 70 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I find it funny that corporations can openly talk about hiring illegal immigrants and nobody cares... Like isn't that also illegal?

I bet if the government made hiring an illegal immigrant a felony and the owner of the company would face jail time, then things would change very quickly.

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 31 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Everyone blames the immigrant for their troubles, not the industries that hire immigrants for cheap despite it being illegal. Capitalism and racism are the backbone of America.

[–] CaptSneeze@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

YES—I’ve been saying this for years! If any politician actually believed any of the bullshit they say about illegal immigrants stealing jobs and ruining industries, they could instantly stop it by placing heavy fines on employers who are caught hiring them. There is no penalty big enough to block out the giant glowing neon “help wanted!” sign on the US side of its southern border. Politicians would rather spend millions breaking up families, and imprisoning children than slap a fat fine on some construction and agriculture companies.

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 1 points 3 weeks ago

The corporations like it that way: disempowered workers in a precarious situation who can be deported at any time, creating golden opportunities for wage theft and union-busting.

[–] irotsoma@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

They'd need to make executives personally liable for crimes they commit as representatives of the company. But that's highly unlikely to ever happen. Otherwise, the fines will always be less than the money saved by committing the crime and the crimes boost profits in the short term which is more important for publicly traded companies than a future potential fine no matter how much it is, unless it's truly devastating, which will also never happen due to the cost of litigating.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago

Then they'd just appoint fall guys and remove them the second they disobeyed.

Abolish the corporate veil; hold shareholders liable for the crimes they pay people to commit. Yes I'm aware why it exists, and that can be solved with liability insurance without imposing external costs on everyone else.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Not just executives, more importantly shareholders. The people that own the company should be liable.

[–] NobodyElse@sh.itjust.works 42 points 1 month ago (2 children)

This is not the right argument to be making. We shouldn’t be normalizing the exploitation of a underclass of people for the enrichment of law-breaking business owners.

[–] Stern@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It sucks but its also how the sausage is made at present.

[–] Death_Equity@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The reality is that America only works by exploiting illegals.

If we magic wand illegals into citizens everything will explode in cost and then the government will try and spend their way out of the economic disaster, creating massive inflation.

If we magic wand illegals out of the country everything will explode in cost and then the government will try and spend their way out of an economic disaster while the foundation of our economy collapses, with runaway inflation.

Over the past decades we could have eased into an economy that isn't dependant on illegal exploitation, but that would have hurt profits, and we can't be having that.

[–] shoulderoforion@fedia.io 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Capitalism only functions when labor is taken advantage of. Matter and Energy are neither created nor destroyed, they only take on different forms.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 0 points 1 month ago

Stealing this saying. Quotable.

[–] shoulderoforion@fedia.io 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

hahahahahahahahahaha they just now figured this out, it's ok though, trump will create a cuttout in the "law" for his MAGAt buddies in Texas

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Why would he? He already got what he wanted out of them.

[–] Tedesche@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago

Considering most of the people involved in said industry probably voted for Trump, I decidedly don’t care. Face, meet leopards.

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago
[–] zenharbinger@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

Shocked Pikachu

[–] Freefall@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

I hope they suffer and crumble. It will be HILARIOUS! I'm all done giving a fuck what the collateral damage is. Hey, any construction companies that don't use slave labor, get those contracts ready and add some zeros!