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Sorry if this is a dumb question, but does anyone else feel like technology - specifically consumer tech - kinda peaked over a decade ago? I'm 37, and I remember being awed between like 2011 and 2014 with phones, voice assistants, smart home devices, and what websites were capable of. Now it seems like much of this stuff either hasn't improved all that much, or is straight up worse than it used to be. Am I crazy? Have I just been out of the market for this stuff for too long?

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[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 18 points 1 day ago (4 children)

What? No. lol. Tech is still improving. You're just thinking of the bad new stuff and good old stuff. Nostalgia is a hell of a drug. Phone's batteries and resolutions are much better than they were in 2014. Voice assistants never really took off. Smart home stuff is maaaaybe a little better now but there are also a shit ton more brands now and most are crap. But that also means cheaper and more widespread.

[–] Nibodhika@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago

The thing is that 10 years ago the phone I had was very similar to the one I have now, the laptop I had was very similar to the one I have now, and up until very recently I still had parts from the desktop I used to had back then installed on my current desktop, I also visited lots of the same sites I do now and played some of the same games. But if you go back another 10 years it's very different. In 2004 I didn't had a cellphone, by 2014 I had a Google Nexus, now I have a Google Pixel. In 2004 I didn't had a laptop, in 2014 I had a 8GB RAM 512GB dual core laptop, now I have a 32GB 1TBB 6 core one. In 2004 My desktop had 256MB RAM 10GB single core 1.6GHz processor, in 2014 it had 16GB RAM 1TB 6 core, now it has 32GB RAM 3TB 6 cores.

Obviously my computer now is much better than the one from 10 years ago, bit not by the same amount than the one form 2014 was from the one from 2004. To try to put it in perspective I would need to have around 500GB of RAM for it to be the same leap in RAM amount.

[–] ApatheticCactus@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago

I just got a new phone, and the ai voice assistant is actually good. It's what people imagined it was going to be when they first came out. It doesn't have access yet to a lot of things, so it can't 'act' on things, but it actually gives consistently relevant info.

One thing I've used it for recently is I was in a game and knew there was a secret chest and it could accurately tell me what to do to get it Way better than looking up a video.

Phone screen pixel density actually went down in the last 10 years due to bigger screens.

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[–] StayDoomed@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I feel like smartphones + internet peaked about 10 years ago and has now steadily become enshittified. I have never used "google assistant" because it takes less time to just type something in to my phone or tap the setup for my alarm.

So yes, definitely feel that way. Consumer tech had less bullshit masking as improvements ten years ago.

[–] Homescool@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Yes. Name one useful product Google has released in 15 years.

I can think of one (assistant/gemini) but it actually gets worse every minute so it supports the main idea that shits lame for a while now.

I haven't adopted a Google technology since 2010 when I got my first Android phone. They haven't made anything that lasted since; basically everything they introduce is going to be abandoned and shut down in ~3 years because they haven't changed away from their "move fast and break things" era. "Google Wank is now Android Jerk. No Wait, Android Jerk is being sunset in favor of Play Withyourself. Wait no, users are being migrated over to Youtube Crotch." Fuck it I'll use my hand.

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I dunno, I just upgraded my six year old phone to the latest model and it’s pretty fuckin dope. I don’t use anything Google, though, so I can’t comment on their assistant.

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[–] QuadratureSurfer@lemmy.world 234 points 2 days ago (10 children)

To quote one of my favorite authors:


“I've come up with a set of rules that describe our reactions to technologies:
1. Anything that is in the world when you’re born is normal and ordinary and is just a natural part of the way the world works.
2. Anything that's invented between when you’re fifteen and thirty-five is new and exciting and revolutionary and you can probably get a career in it.
3. Anything invented after you're thirty-five is against the natural order of things.”


― Douglas Adams, The Salmon of Doubt: Hitchhiking the Galaxy One Last Time

[–] fsxylo@sh.itjust.works 58 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yeah but Facebook was invented when I was a teen and I knew pretty quickly that shit was evil.

[–] RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 23 hours ago

You must have been very mature for your age, and very cool.

How did you feel about pop music that came out when you were young? Born in the wrong generation at all?

At 15 the thing i wanted most in the world was an escape hatch from all these other assholes I had to spend my time with everyday at school. Right around that time Facebook arrived ensuring they would have more access to me and the people around me more then any other time in history.

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[–] IMNOTCRAZYINSTITUTION@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (4 children)
[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago

Absolutely no. 2014 can eat my multiple TBs of SSDs’ asses.

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[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 81 points 1 day ago (6 children)

There was a lot of pioneering in the 70's. The first home computers, the first video games, the first mobile phones, all right there in the late 70's. Most people ended the 70's living like they did in the 60's but now there's cool shit like the Speak n' Spell. The average American home in 1979 had no microwave oven, a landline telephone and a TV that might have even been color. There were some nerds who had TRS-80s, some of them even had a modem so they could 300 baud each other. Normies saw none of this.

There was a lot of invention in the 80's. Home computer systems, video games etc. as we now commonly know them crystalized in the 80's. We emerged from the 80's with Nintendo as the dominant video game console platform, Motorola as basically the only name in cellular telephones and with x86 PCs running Microsoft operating systems as the dominant computing platform with Apple in a distant but solid second place. Video games were common, home computers weren't that out there, people still had land lines, and maybe cable TV or especially if you were out in the sticks you might have one of those giant satellite dishes. If you were a bit of an enthusiast you might have a modem to dial BBSes and that kind of stuff, but basically no one has an email address.

There was a lot of evolution in the 90's. With the possible exception of the world wide web which was switched on in August of '91, there weren't a lot of changes to how computing worked throughout the decade. Compare an IBM PS/2 from 1989 with a Compaq Presario from 1999. 3 1/4" floppy disk, CRT monitor attached via VGA, serial and parallel ports, keyboard and mouse attached via PS2 ports, Intel architecture with Microsoft operating system...it's the same machine 10 years later. The newer machine runs orders of magnitude faster, has orders of magnitude more RAM etc. but it still broadly speaking fills the same role in the user's life. An N64 is exactly what you'd expect the NES to look like after a decade. Cell phones have gotten sleeker and more available but it's still mostly a telephone that places telephone calls, it's the same machine Michael Douglas had in that one movie but now no longer a 2 pound brick. Bring a tech savvy teen from 1989 to 1999 and it won't take long to explain everything to him. The World Wide Web exists now, but a lot of retailers haven't embraced the online marketplace, the dotcom bubble bursts, it's not quite got the permanent grip on life yet.

There was a lot of revolution in the 2000's. Higher speed internet that allow for audio and video streaming, mp3 players and the upheaval those caused, the proliferation of digital cameras, the rise of social media. When I graduated high school in 2005, there were no iPhones, no Facebook, no Twitter, no Youtube. Google was a search engine that was gaining ground against Yahoo. The world was a vastly different place by the time I was through college. Take that savvy teen from 1989 and his counterpart from 1999 and explain to them how things work in 2009. It'll take a lot longer. In 2009 we had a lot of technology that had a lot of potential, and we were just starting to realize that potential. It was easy to see a bright future.

There was a lot of stagnation in the 2010's. We started the decade with smart phones and social media, and we ended the decade with smart phones and social media. Performance numbers for machines kept going up but you kinda don't notice; you buy a new phone and it's so much faster and more responsive, 4 years later it barely loads web pages and takes forever to launch an app because mobile apps are gaseous, they expand to take up their system. A lot of handset manufacturers have given up so now there are fewer options, and they've converged to basically one form factor. Distinguishing features are gone, things we used to be able to do aren't there anymore. The excitement wore off, this is how we do things now, and now everyone is here. Mobile app stores are full of phishing software, you're probably better advised to just use the mobile browser if you can, mainstream video gaming is now just skinner boxes, and by the end of the decade social media is all about propaganda silos and/or attention draining engagement slop.

Now we arrive in the 2020's where we find a lot of sinisterization. A lot of the tech world is becoming blatantly, nakedly evil. In truth this began in the 2010's, it's older than 4 years, but we're days away from the halfway point of the decade and it's becoming difficult to see the behavior of tech and media companies as driven only by greed, some of this can only come from a deep seated hatred of your fellow man. People have latched onto the term "enshittification" because it's got the word shit in it and that's hilarious, but...I see a spectrum with the stagnation of the teens represented with a green color and the sinisterization of the 20's represented with red, and the part in the middle where red and green make brown is enshittification.

[–] leadore@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago

Nice summary! I've been here through that whole time period. If it had stopped at the stage around 1995-2000 (before FB & web 2.0 took over the internet, before every business model became about bombarding us with ads and spying on us), our lives would be much better today.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

From an old geek; spot on.

Feels the same with lot of other tech too: space voyage, cars & motorcycles, robots, most are just like last year with some small cosmetic change or 7% more of this or that.

Sure, things are getting better but it doesn't feel like it does any more.

Edit: hey, Lemmy & the decentralised fediverse is quite cool new tech.

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[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 121 points 2 days ago (8 children)

I think new tech is still great, I think the issue is the business around that tech has gotten worse in the past decade

[–] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 60 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (7 children)

Agree. 15+ years ago tech was developed for the tech itself, and it was simply ran as a service, usually for profit.

Now there's too much corporate pressure on monetizing every single aspect, so the tech ends up being bogged down with privacy violations, cookie banners, AI training, and pretty much anything else that gives the owner one extra anual cent per user.

[–] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 44 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Aka “enshittification”

[–] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 28 points 2 days ago

Enshittification was always a thing but it has gotten exponentially worse over yhe past decade. Tech used to be run by tech enthusiasts, but now venture capital calls the shot a lot more than they used to.

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[–] Saltarello@lemmy.world 44 points 1 day ago

Tech has definitely become worse since megacorps killed the little guys & sucked the fun out of everything. Open source & self hosting is becoming/has become the only way. So glad I taught myself how to do it

[–] 01011@monero.town 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

You're not crazy. I feel that even when the tech is slightly better the trade offs make the overall deal worse.

More RAM but it's soldered in on laptops. More storage on phones but no micro sd slot. No headphone jacks, the overall obsession with inferior wireless audio. Streaming services suck for anything that is not a live event and I think eventually more people will realize that. Especially as they keep hiking prices. Clearnet internet has been destroyed. The gaming industry is a joke nowadays, charging full price to play betas.

[–] abbadon420@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago (4 children)

What's wrong with wireless audio? I've often had the problem that my audio jack was full of dirt so the jackplug couldn't properly connect anymore. I don't have that problem with wireless. Worst problem is that the connection sometimes stutters when I'm walking through the train station during rush hour

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[–] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Design wise, absolutely peaked in the 90s/2000s. Now everything looks like a copy of each other with uninspired designs across the board.

In terms of what it has to offer, I personally don't think so. Couldn't imagine going back 10-20 years ago and not having a device like my Steam Deck that can play computer games on the go (laptop not included since when are you realistically pulling out a laptop on a drive when heading out for errands?) or having a laptop not as thin as my current laptop or even just the touchscreen feature. I also couldn't imagine going back 20 years ago and not having a 1 or 2 TB portable external hard drive (or if they were out, being a lot more expensive than now).

[–] PetteriPano@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The PSP is 20 years old now. Absolutely massive game library, and definitely on par with the console and PC games at the time.

The game library is well worth revisiting on something like a retroid pocked with upscaling.

[–] HipsterTenZero@dormi.zone 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

oh, you seem like you know a thing or two. I want to get into the PSP library but kind of missed everything about everything about it. Got any favorites to recommend?

[–] PetteriPano@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago

I sold mine back in 2010, so I'm just rediscovering some old and newer gems on the PS vita and retroids. I probably only scratched the surface back in the day, but I'll list some gems that come to mind. A lot are probably PSX/PS2 ports.

  • Burnout legends/dominator
  • Dragoneer's Aria
  • Crazy taxi
  • God of war
  • Ghostbusters (feat. the OG cast)
  • D&D tactics
  • Rock band unplugged
  • LEGO Star wars
  • Monster hunter

The whole library is almost 2000 games, and some 250+ exclusive.

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[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

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[–] ptz@dubvee.org 52 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (7 children)

It all went downhill when the expectation of an always-on internet connection became the norm. That gave us:

  • "Smart" appliances that have no business being connected to the internet
  • "Smart" TVs that turned into billboards we pay to have in our homes
  • Subscription everything as a service
  • Massive zero-day patches for all manner of software / video games (remember when software companies had to actually release finished/working software? Pepperidge Farm remembers)
  • Planned obsolescence and e-waste on steroids where devices only work with a cloud connection to the manufacturer's servers or as long as the manufacturer is in business to keep a required app up to date
  • Every piece of software seemingly sucking up all the data it can about you and feeding it back to the mothership so you can be profiled and sold to advertisers
  • Pretty much everything Apple does is designed to further lock you into their ecosystem and/or remove a port that's standard in order to pocket the savings and sell you a dongle for $29.99
  • Dwindling / disappearing availability of physical media you effectively own forever in favor of digital libraries that you only have a flimsy license to access at the company's whim (even though you "bought" the title for the same price it would have cost on physical media). Those have been ruled non-transferable (e.g. if you want to leave them to someone in your will) and the company going under leaves you with no rights or ability to get a refund or physical copy of things you supposedly bought but can no longer access.

Other than hardware getting more powerful and sometimes less expensive, every recent innovation has been used against us to take away the right to own, repair, and have any control over the tech we supposedly own.

Edits: I keep thinking of more things that annoy me lol.

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[–] wowwoweowza@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago
  1. Bang. We needed to stop right effing there!
[–] antlion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 day ago (10 children)

TV resolution peaked about 10 years ago with 1080p. The improvement to 4K and high dynamic range is minor.

3D gaming has plateaued as well. While it may be possible to make better graphics, those graphics don’t make better games.

Computers haven’t improved substantially in that time. The biggest improvement is maybe usb-c?

Solar energy and battery storage have drastically changed in the last 10 years. We are at the infancy of off grid building, micro grid communities, and more. Starlink is pretty life changing for rural dwellers. Hopefully combined with the van life movement there will be more interesting ways to live in the future, besides cities, suburbs, or rural. Covid telework normalization was a big and sudden shift, with lasting impacts.

Maybe the next 10 years will bring cellular data by satellite, and drone deliveries?

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[–] rImITywR@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Its called enshitification. Its a process that's been happening in all areas of tech for a while now.

Yeah, I'm not sure why the top comments are seeming to ignore this. Stagnation and greed is the problem here.

[–] iii@mander.xyz 23 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Your BS radar has simply improved I'm guessing. Go through a few hype cycles, and you learn the pattern.

Hardware is better than ever. The default path in software is spammier and more extortionist than ever.

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