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[–] hperrin@lemmy.world 7 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Firefox is a direct fork of Netscape Navigator. (Actual Netscape Navigator, not whatever this is.)

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 28 points 8 hours ago

Firefox is Netscape; this makes no sense and shouldn't exist.

AOL is so stupid that they didn't have the guts to use Firefox as a base.

[–] bizarroland@fedia.io 51 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

How is it that so many companies can literally skin another company and wear its skin as a bodysuit and we do not collectively recoil in psychological horror?

How are so many people germane to this concept?

This is invasion of the body snatchers but for companies that determine the livelihood of essentially every human being on the planet. It's fucking terrifying.

[–] ScruffyDucky@lemmy.world 27 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Aeh perut merh HAUNDS. Onen merh HEAURD

[–] univers3man@lemmy.world 10 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Like some kinda eggar suit

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago
[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 58 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (2 children)

It kinda just looks like Chrome forked to change the Google logos to Netscape and thats it.

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 10 hours ago

That's almost every chromium browser out there, most don't even bother to change the skin and user interface from the chromium default.

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 48 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Perhaps there's extra tracking ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

[–] LostXOR@fedia.io 26 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Now you can get tracked by Google and Netscape! It's a 2 for 1 deal!

[–] clubb@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago

It's actually owned by AOL, which is owned by Yahoo. So you get tracked by Google, Netscape, AOL, and Yahoo

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 36 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Didn't Netscape basically become Mozilla?

[–] NickwithaC@lemmy.world 25 points 10 hours ago

Yes which makes this even dumber. They could just as easily have launched a Firefox fork.

[–] yenguardian@lemmy.blahaj.zone 55 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Just before Netscape was purchased they open-sourced their browser, and the Mozilla organization formed to continue the open-source Netscape codebase as the Mozilla Suite. So, basically yeah, the actual Netscape code became Mozilla and the Netscape legal entity just became a Yahoo subsidiary that they did fuck all with

[–] Linkyu@lemmy.blahaj.zone 34 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

That sounds like Yahoo alright

[–] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 22 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

It honestly blows my mind that yahoo is even a thing anymore. I can't think of the last time they got something right, yet they keep shuffling along.

[–] SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 5 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Yahoo Auctions is still massive in Japan.

[–] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

We used to use them to farm and sell gold and rare items in an online game that I won't mention because I'm afraid it will restart my addiction.

[–] lychee@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Data harvesting is a lucrative business. You don’t need to have a good product with todays internet, you just need to have access to a lot of insanely personal data, and yahoo has both an expansive advertising network and hosts hundreds of millions of email accounts. They're just Google except they don't pretend to care about anything else

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 1 points 9 hours ago

They can keep shuffling along, though. If you don't have to pay for active development of features, maintenance of their existing product lines is relatively cheap.

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

you missed the bit about aol buying netscape in 1998.

netscape continued but under aol's structure. aol disbanded the netscape group in 2003, which is when mozilla foundation launched and took over development.

aol continued to release netscape on its own until v9 in early 2008. last two versions were based on mozilla's new firefox, not the legacy browser suite.

yahoo got mixed in when verizon bought aol in 2015 and most of yahoo in 2016, and combined them. later sold verizon media (the aol/yahoo combination, fka oath, nka yahoo) to vultures (apollo) in 2021. apparently the netscape trademark remains with the remnants of aol.

[–] yenguardian@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 hours ago

Ah, I felt like I had forgotten a few parts. My bad.

[–] NeoToasty@kbin.melroy.org 7 points 11 hours ago

Looks like just a shitty theme but everything Chrome retained. What a waste.

[–] Toes@ani.social 8 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

I vaguely recall its last version was an internet explorer skin too. So, 2 steps forward 1 step back?

[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Toes@ani.social 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Had to refresh my knowledge of that era.

But it was Netscape version 8 that let users use the Trident engine (internet explorer).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trident_(software)

Under use cases.

[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

to render web pages in IE mode

Sounds like a separate mode for compatibility reasons back when websites had that "Best viewed in Internet Explorer" badge

Plus, 8 wasn't the last release either

[–] Toes@ani.social 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Sounds like a separate mode for compatibility

Yeah it was, I don't know if they kept the feature in v9. It stopped being relevant a long time before that either way.

I never made a claim to the accuracy.

[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 1 points 9 hours ago

i was just saying that i don’t think they ever became an ie skin lol

[–] perviouslyiner@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)
[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 10 hours ago

Sorry, I already annihilated the VM.