Piracy explicitly is not stealing. Theft requires denying the owner of the ability to use the thing that is stolen. Copyright infringement does not meet this bar, and is not a crime in the vast majority of cases. Commercial copyright infringement is the only offense classed as a crime, which in a nutshell is piracy for profit ie selling pirated material.
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Piracy explicitly is not stealing.
Piracy is attacking ships at sea and is usually done in order to rob them.
Piracy is midnight oyster and clam harvesting without a license to break the oyster cartel, making restaurant oysters and clams more available and cheaper to customers.
It is from this grand tradition along the US West Coast that the notion of media piracy rose, and much like the Golden Age of Piracy robbing the Spanish Silver Train, piracy is associated with snatching ill-gotten gains from those who don't deserve it, sometimes benefiting communities that do. (YMMV).
This is why you get a letter of marque to give you legitimacy. I've been letioning my government for one endlessly so I can attack Russian shipping in the balkans.
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And privateering is piracy when you have the consent of a government to attack ships belonging to another government
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Someone: Photographs pages of a book in a book store
OP: "Hello Police? Someone is stealing a book!"
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aside: why can't lemmy just let me expand the thumbnail without directing me to an external site
To add onto that, on the Jerboa app (not sure about other apps), if I try to click on an image in a comment, it just minimizes the comment. I'd love to be able to click on pictures in comments, as well, and have the thumbnail expand.
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You can steal digital goods, but to do so you have to copy it and erase the original. Otherwise its just copying.
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Don't make me tap the sidebar again...
Media Piracy is copyright infringement, which is totally not stealing.
The US Supreme Court taking content out of the public domain so that it can be reserved for private use isn't stealing either, but it causes more harm than piracy.
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Talk about blowing smoke up your own ass.
I don't know man. Where I live the law says it's not stealing. It says: legal to share, illegal to share for profit. On other words: legal to share, illegal to sell.
It's a lot earlier when you realize that everyone else is going to treat this world like a smash and grab regardless of what you do. These companies ~~included~~ especially.
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I honestly don't care about the legality. Plus I come from a country where we have way bigger issues to deal with than piracy.
All I care about is coming up with ways to make sure my friends watch some of the stuff I recommend to them. Best way is still going "hey, check out this cool new show. Yes it's on saltyflix"
that is exactly where i am at as well, battling with absurdly high inflation is already hard enough i can't pay for bajillion different streaming services or non indie games
I’m living in one of those countries. I still use a vpn, but I don’t anyone here does besides me.
But the way I look at it is, the people so make these things are also so rich out at least have higher incomes than I do by a significant amount.
Why are you asking me for money? Don’t you have enough?
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Or you could just not give a flying fuck about the moral and ethical aspects and go on with your life.
Live the unexamined life? But then who will pay attention to me?
I live on a small island and the closest cinema or shop where I could buy anything is 3 hours away.
Piracy is more comfortable for me.
then why don't you subscribe to streaming services?
Well, my friend: I don't like to be locked out of other regions.
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If no one loses anything they never had in the first place it is not stealing
This meme is stealing.
You wouldn't download a meme.
You wouldn't shitpost in the policeman's helmet
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"But I want to support those little poor billionares, who's going to look after their livehood and ethical buisness?"
The more you pay for big brands, whatever product you buy, be it clothes, food, or any form of knowledge, the more you drive up the sales, the more you reinforce the idea that money is a tool only a few chosen are rightful of having, just like the riches and the labour of the many. (Buy from local producers as much as you can)
Ironically enough, pirating makes people more aware of what it consumes, what labor is and mostly to get to support creators directly for what they put out. You can't steal from corporations, you only get back the unpaid /underpaid labour of many. Quality content and effort should be rewarded, so please support/help your creators in any way you can.
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More pirates vs pirates memes when it should be pirates vs executives
I am proud of pirating and I don't get why people who also pirate would have a problem with that. Like you think it's wrong and do it anyway, but think people who don't think it's wrong are cringe somehow? What's wrong with standing up for what you believe in?
i disagree. not that i would care anyway
Yep, I pirate for the same reason my dog licks his balls.. because we can
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