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[–] 000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

With the social climate of the time, there would just be another guy who would replace him. It's a fallacy to think "fixing" the individual will solve social problems.

[–] Demdaru@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

...

Yep, you are right.

Send someone sick with COVID.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Specifically near the end of WW1, like 1918 or so, that should get them.

[–] MyNameIsAtticus@lemmy.world 5 points 16 hours ago

let's make a whole new strain for it too. we can call it the Spanish Flu or something

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago

So I'm hearing we need to go to the negotiation room of the treaty of Versailles, and then send a predator drone to Italy. Sorry future Italians.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 3 points 16 hours ago

"Finally the time machine is finished. Now I can go back and stop Caligula from being raised all fucked up by Tiberius!"

[–] Wes4Humanity@lemm.ee 5 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I've actually thought about this type of thing quite a lot, and I've come to the conclusion that you'd have to go back to the first Sumerian cities, and convince all the regular peaceful cooperative people to kick out anyone who says anything along the lines of "do what I say or I'll kill you".

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 5 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

It wasn't even "do what I say or I'll kill you". It was "this land is mine" - the establishment of private property. The lords never needed to explicitly make a death threat themselves when nature could make the death threat for them, and the victim is deprived of access to vital resources.

[–] phx@lemmy.ca 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

But being territorial with violence as enforcement goes back fast beyond that. Look at large cats or various primates. Yes the latter have enclaves but they are enclaves and tend to have a bruiser at the top

[–] Wes4Humanity@lemm.ee 1 points 21 minutes ago

That's probably why the peaceful cooperative non violent types tolerated the sociopaths in the first place... Need that bruiser to protect you from the neighboring city's bruiser

[–] Kaliax@lemmy.world 5 points 19 hours ago

If only our species took more from Bonobos than Chimps..

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 8 points 22 hours ago

Not how I expected the Planet of the Apes reboot to start

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 4 points 21 hours ago

And neanderthals sprang whole into being

[–] wabafee@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

With that humans possibly gone extinct due to diseases introduced on that timeline. On the other hand the time travellers just bought a new disease to the current timeline.

[–] CaptPretentious@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

With the time machine plot I didn't even question the massive exposed brain.

It's hair...

[–] FrowingFostek@lemmy.world 5 points 22 hours ago

I thought it was just pink hair but, I like your perspective better.

[–] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)
[–] palordrolap@fedia.io 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

May I suggest a plush monkey and not an actual live one? Real monkeys may react violently to an unexpected hug.

... which is kind of my way of saying that this comic would probably not go as shown, and the true ending might have been the cause of that particular family line seeing violence as an occasional necessity...

[–] ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 1 points 11 hours ago

Pretty sure the next panel of this comic is going to be NSFL due to catastrophic dismemberment.

[–] Albbi@lemmy.ca 44 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] elidoz@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

that's exactly the comic this reminded me of, but I didn't remember the ending, it makes no sense

[–] Klear@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago

Neither does this 💋

[–] xspurnx@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 19 hours ago

It does if you're a homophobe.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

That was uh something.

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

And then when they return to their own time hominids are all extinct.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 1 points 14 hours ago

Only to be replaced by a much more advanced species, because these two totally did the nasty in the pasty with some lady apes.

[–] libretechsystems@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago

Time can be rewritten

[–] Mothra@mander.xyz 65 points 1 day ago (3 children)

These guys just fixed humanity with a hug

[–] BugleFingers@lemmy.world 5 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

You could fix my humanity with a hug :')

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 5 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Best I can do is a friendly tap on the back

[–] BugleFingers@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago

(Dark souls style) Humanity Restored

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Imagine that the hug changed the family, made them loving and supportive, and Hitler was just a recidivist incel who was destined to be hateful. Sometimes things can't be changed, some people don't want to be fixed, and some shitheads need to be rejected for who they are.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago

Honestly, you'd need to fix World War 1 and uhhh... Good luck. Hitler was just the drug addict the bitter world war 1 veterans and conservatives rallied around. There were multiple options. They all had similar stories, massive PTSD, using drugs and propaganda to cope.

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

I can only imagine a The Boys scenario where it cuts their body in half from squeezing too hard.

[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hitler's father was quite cosmopolitan. He had a nationalist history teacher and a rough time after he was rejected from art school. Take that with a huge grain of salt since this is how he depicts it in his autobiography. I think the major part of his radicalization was in prison while he wrote Mein Kampf but that's just my opinion.

[–] 0p3r470r@lemm.ee 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think I read somewhere that he was supposed to infiltrate the Nazis and report on them. Instead he got radicalized.

Whoops

[–] kilgore_trout@feddit.it 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

think I read somewhere

Doesn't make it true.

[–] 0p3r470r@lemm.ee 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

True!

So here’s a source. Wikipedia

He was an intelligence agent assigned to infiltrate the German workers party, precursor to the nazi party. It’s the first bit in the “entry into politics section”.

https://imgur.com/a/zBAKJYU

[–] girsaysdoom@sh.itjust.works 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Jesus Christ. I had no idea that he was a turned Intel agent too.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago

Germany wasn't great at spying... In world war 2 the British basically kept German agents as pets.

[–] cmhe@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

They should probably try to fix the issues that caused the population to vote for him.

It never about "fixing" or "killing" individuals, but about systems that do not work for some people.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago

Interwar Germany wasn't meant to work. It was a collective punishment over a war the entire nobility of Europe jumped into with all the fervor of a kid with a new wargame.

[–] Kite@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 day ago

I kind of think about things like this a lot because of my family. My mom's parents were amazing. My mom was amazing. Her brother.. total asshole. My dad's parents - especially his mom - were beyond awful. Out of 6 kids, only 2 turned out good, and 1 was my dad. He's told me so many times over the years how he swore he'd never be like his parents. I've wondered before how things might have turned out of my maternal grandparents had been awful and my paternal ones good. I wonder how things would have changed.

[–] stupidcasey@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The line leading to Homo sapiens went extinct that day after trying to have peace talks with the much more aggressive neanderthal ancestors.

[–] brsrklf@jlai.lu 8 points 1 day ago

I think they messed up and went for the ancestors of bonobos, that's why they're so chill.

[–] merde@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

"neanderthal ancestors", "that day", "peace talks"

you need to read about Neanderthals.

Neanderthals never met ancestors of homo sapiens those apes in the strip seem to represent.

they're probably assimilated and not killed to extinction in a war

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Neanderthals never met ancestors of homo sapiens

That's what people USED to think. Turns out they not just met, but interbred.

[–] merde@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

yes, according to researchers, they did meet homo sapiens and interbred

The oldest potential Neanderthal bones date to 430,000 years ago

Anatomically modern humans emerged around 300,000 years ago in Africa, evolving from Homo heidelbergensis or a similar species.

The date of divergence of Neanderthals from their ancestor H. heidelbergensis is also unclear.

my thinking was that if both homo sapiens and Neanderthals evolved from "h. heidelbergensis" than Neanderthals met h. sapiens but not their "ancestors"