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Summary

“He wants to be seen as having say in everything (even if he doesn’t),” one person in Trump’s orbit said.

Elon Musk’s growing influence in Donald Trump’s orbit is reportedly irritating members of the former president’s inner circle.

Since his efforts helped secure Trump’s reelection, Musk has been highly visible at Mar-a-Lago, taking credit for Trump’s victory and acting as if he’s a “co-president.”

Musk has joined key diplomatic calls and even attempted to broker peace with Iran.

Despite his appointment to lead the Department of Government Efficiency, some close to Trump feel Musk’s overreach and need for attention may jeopardize his position, as Trump dislikes sharing the spotlight.

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[–] enbyecho@lemmy.world 2 points 27 minutes ago

Didn't see this coming from about 136 miles away. Oh no...

[–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

Musk has joined key diplomatic calls and even attempted to broker peace with Iran.

That's a pretty clear violation of the Logan Act. Gettin' blue from holding my breath over here.

[–] zqps@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I'm sure the judiciary is gonna take care of it.

[–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 2 points 47 minutes ago

Just after they have some tea and cake.

[–] HorreC@lemmy.world 7 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

When you are fucking the bosses wife, you get to do anything you want.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago

When you are fucking the boss~~es wife~~, you get to do anything you want.

[–] tired_n_bored@lemmy.world 10 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Trapezoid Musk wants to steal the attention away from Trump. He will never allow that. I pray they will clash at each other

[–] Today@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

In a ring in vegas. I'd ppv that.

[–] elrik@lemmy.world 6 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Please fire him. Preferably into the sun, but I'll accept simply out of any position in government.

[–] blady_blah@lemmy.world 2 points 25 minutes ago

Trump doesn't let people gain much power around him and neither Musk or Trump play well with others. Elon will be gone soon enough. I've got the popcorn for when the cat-fight starts. Should be fun.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 9 points 3 hours ago

Yeah he has that kinda face

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 26 points 5 hours ago

Republicans: "Billionaires are just better than everyone else and we should all get out of their way and hand them the keys to everything for the betterment of all mankind."

Republicans After Being Forced to Spend One (1) Week Around Elon Musk: "No, shit, wait, these guys are fucking idiots!"

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 26 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Oh man I can't wait for this knot of over-torqued springs to explode apart into pieces. Too bad the shrapnel will probably kill us all.

[–] BananaTrifleViolin@lemmy.world 8 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Yeah, one part of the prediction and fears raised about the republicans is it gives them far too much credit to actually run a government.

They have held the house and the Senate before and then been crippled by infighting as with slim majoroties it only takes a few people to hold everyone hostage.

Some of Trumps nominations may not get through the Republican controlled Congress.

People seem to forget the republicans controlled all 3 parts of government in 2016 and didn't get far. Yes they managed some significant things but tax cuts and supreme Court nominations are the main successes.

This time Trump is making batshit crazy nominations which are likely to divide their own party in Congress.

Gaetz nomination is particularly bad as he's hated by a lot of Republican law makers. There are likely enough republicans who actually care about the legal system that his nomination will not get through. If it does get through then it'll be a sign of how bad things can be. But it's likely it will not get through and just sow seeds of discord between Trump and some of the republicans in Congress, poisoning more attempts to change things.

I predict one hell of a shit show over the next 2 years, but probably not from what they do - instead from what they fail to do and the recriminations that follow. All those Republican law makers telling themselves that Trump is diminished, less of a threat, and that they can control him are in for a hell of a ride.

[–] Wxfisch@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Add in the congress critters from both houses need to run their own campaigns at some point, in many cases they can’t afford to just kiss the ring. This is especially true in the house where seats are up for grabs “soon” and the voter base is relatively small. If you’re a Representative and won your seat on a small margin, you clearly don’t have a mandate and need to act more moderate. Some senate seats are in the same boat (McCormick in PA, assuming the recount still favors him, is in this boat; he’s run three times now and barely beat out Casey this time, it’s a fair bet he doesn’t have solid footing for his first term and can only toe the party line so far). The only thing we should all bet on is at the end of the day everyone in politics is going to lookout for themselves first. It’s going to be a shitshow for at least the next two years, probably the full four and maybe beyond.

[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

Too bad the shrapnel will probably kill us all.

I'm here for it.

[–] gedhrel@lemmy.world 17 points 6 hours ago

He doesn't want to be co-president. He's a founder of the USA.

[–] Takios@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 5 hours ago

Obviously, Musk wants to be the shadow president of the USA but I don't think it'll play out as he hopes.

[–] Metz@lemmy.world 23 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

has joined key diplomatic calls and even attempted to broker peace with Iran.

I have to stop reading the news here. I can feel the aneurysm growing in my head.

[–] Pingudiem@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

Non American here but is that not against the law? He is no official representative...

[–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 hours ago

Yes, specifically the Logan Act.

[–] WindyRebel@lemmy.world 11 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Likely, but who is going to do anything about it? My country is an embarrassment and proven that there are no laws for those under a certain status/value.

[–] Metz@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (2 children)

I'm no american either so no idea. There are quite some things where I as a European can only think either “wtf, how is that legal?” or “wtf, that makes no sense”.

Especially that the president can apparently choose any people with any qualifications (or a complete lack thereof) for any position whatsoever. even if they are completely unsuitable or even completely contrary to the purpose of the position.

A modern democracy should have certain safeguards in place. Or at least some fucking standards and requirements.

[–] Today@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

The 3 branches of government that are supposed to serve as a system of checks and balances on each other have been overtaken by greed and fear.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

Only reason that's allowed is the Repuglican infatuation with the orange

[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 22 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

I'm gonna call bullshit on this. For years now, I've been reading articles just like this one, and at the end of the day, nobody that could change anything did a fucking thing. It's just posturing and means nothing.

[–] enbyecho@lemmy.world 1 points 20 minutes ago

"nobody that could change anything did a fucking thing"

Actually, things did happen. Many things happened. Your ignorance of them doesn't mean they didn't happen.

In this case we have an incoming chaos presidency. Government by chaos doesn't work well and tends to return to stasis not least because people tend to want to do their jobs. Musk will disappear onto his next ADHD and excessive wealth-fueled adventure, probably Vance will have Trump shuffled quietly to the side (or maybe out a window) and the infighting among cabinet members and political appointees will ensure that few of Trump's "promises" are kept.

There will be lots of damage, many people will suffer, and recovery will take a long time. But out of that things will change.

[–] sik0fewl@lemmy.ca 17 points 10 hours ago

Everybody hated everybody and I didn't like what Trump was doing, but I fucking did it anyway. Buy my book.

[–] FarFarAway@startrek.website 5 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Pre-covid Musk quit Trumps presidential councils over "withdrawal of the Paris climate accord." If nothing else, theres a possibility, I guess...

[–] SilentStorms@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Pre-covid Musk was still pretending to be a liberal.

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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 47 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

All of the people swirling around in the sewage that is donvict's thugs are probably pissing off each other, because all of them are Karens, FFS.

Even annoying AF people get annoyed by other annoying assholes...

[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 39 points 13 hours ago

It’ll be the first time in his life he is not the boss. That’ll likely lead to a problem.

[–] NeoToasty@kbin.melroy.org 105 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

It's going to be 4 years of basically watching all of these imbeciles gnaw at eachother while everyone else's quality of life just dies around them. Lovely.

[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Meanwhile, in the Democratic Party headquarters...

"At least the economy is doing well."

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 35 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

I forgot there were going to be potentially 3 CEOs in the Whitehouse. They're going to get under each other's skin like you wouldn't believe. We're still fucked but the infighting should be quite enjoyable.

[–] P1nkman@lemmy.world 16 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

As a European, I'm here with a bucket of popcorn in one hand, enjoying the shit show. I'm of course scared for what will happen, and the consequences will impact the entire planet, but since I have absolutely nothing I can do about it, the enjoyment will suffice.

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 11 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

All of Donnie’s boys sitting in the “work in the White House together” challenge like

[–] WindyRebel@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago

Even funnier context is that this episode he was annoyed at Tesla. 🤣

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[–] cerement@slrpnk.net 74 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

remember: First Lady Elon Musk

[–] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 51 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Secret Service codename: X-wife

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[–] Zier@fedia.io 8 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

The more he acts up, the quicker trump will dump his ass. Fat Donnie is the dictator and wants all the attention, other people taking that away get dumped, bigly!

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

By Christmas the Department of Government Efficiency (they really should have used Excess for the E) will no longer be going to exist.

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[–] SlippiHUD@lemmy.world 26 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Are we going to see Trump Admin Churn before he even takes office!?

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 14 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

How many Scarumuccis will some of these douchebags last?

[–] SlippiHUD@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

Money on we end up with a new time scale for shortest tenure by January 20th

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