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[–] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 145 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] tiita@lemmy.world 76 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Not really.. This time America voted for the felon to become a dictator

And the felon will do whatever he can to make it happen.

Last time it was still a misguided presidency.

[–] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 73 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I hear ya, but I mean he 'joked' about it before this election too.

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 58 points 1 day ago (3 children)
[–] HocEnimVeni@lemmy.world 47 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Don't forget when he praised Xi Jinping for removing term limits and suggested he might do the same https://www.reuters.com/article/world/trump-praises-chinese-president-extending-tenure-for-life-idUSKCN1GG03P/

[–] Ragdoll_X@lemmy.world 39 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

He's also just explicitly said that he wants to be a dictator, but that apparently isn't a turn-off for much of his base, and in fact many of them see it as a positive: https://apnews.com/article/trump-hannity-dictator-authoritarian-presidential-election-f27e7e9d7c13fabbe3ae7dd7f1235c72

[–] vividspecter@lemm.ee 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I saw a comment from a conservative recently who was hoping that Trump would create term limits for congress. Like, how delusional can you be?

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

If only there were just one example instead likely over 10

[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 8 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (2 children)

That was a reference to Armageddon.

Evangelicals want him to make it happen.

**Downvote all you want. It's a fact.

Paula white, member of NAR, and trumps white house spiritual advisor said trump, and I fucking quote:

'will play a critical role in Armageddon as the United States stands alongside Israel in the battle against Islam."

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[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 26 points 1 day ago (2 children)

in the 10 minutes of the Rogan interview I could stomach he talked about how surreal it all was, how it was a joke, he didn't want to be a politician, and he didn't expect to win.

He was expecting it this time and he knows what he can get away with.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 8 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I don't know how anyone could be impressed by that interview. It was 3 hours of a narcissist saying how great he is.

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[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It could be that simple. He didn't realize the potential the first time around and so many things got in the way, including a disaster that tried to force a leadership role on him. This time enough was changed and built up to prevent the obstacles, and he not only can avoid justice for his past, but he can, in his own words, "do anything and they'll let you."

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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 13 points 17 hours ago

Yeah, a "joke".

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 75 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] 3PO40K@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You would think they would figure it out right? It's not a joke.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

You'd think, but then 75 or so million people either didn't, or wanted this.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 9 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

He’ll do what Putin did. Have Vance run as President, and run as his Vice-President. He’ll maintain control like Dick Cheney with Bush.

[–] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 9 points 17 hours ago (6 children)

That’s explicitly not allowed by the constitution. 12th amendment

[–] rimmedalpha@lemmynsfw.com 9 points 16 hours ago

Yes, but the 28th Amendment written on this McDonald's napkin says he can totally do this.

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[–] jerakor@startrek.website 52 points 1 day ago (5 children)

He is 78, in awful health, and has no interest in a legacy or supporting a successor. He keeps everyone around him at odds and maintains enough infighting that no clear heir apparent could really show up.

So like, he really only will hold power long enough to make everything terrible. So we got that goin for us.

[–] minnow@lemmy.world 50 points 1 day ago (3 children)

You know how long Caesar was dictator for life before he was assassinated? Less than a year.

But the damage was done, and Rome had a civil war over whether it would go back to being a Republic like it had been or if it would have an autocratic ruler. Obviously, the latter won out.

A lesson from history.

[–] jerakor@startrek.website 29 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Let's not lump Trump in with Julius Caesar. Julius Caesar was a war hero and a capable leader who's final crimes were giving out citizenship and housing.

Trump's final crimes will be giving all our state secrets to every other government in the world and obliterating our infrastructure.

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[–] gdog05@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We have so many lessons from history to pull from right now that you would need multiple professors to explain them all and yet they were all ignored.

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[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 10 points 21 hours ago

You know how long Caesar was dictator for life before he was assassinated? Less than a year.

So you're saying he was dictator for life? 😂

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yep, when trump dies his "movement" explodes. They won't consolidate around one, and trump would never have a clear successor because then he risks everyone siding with them.

MAGA ain't a movement it's a person.

When he's gone the knives come out and the party will balkanize itself

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I wish I had your optimism

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.

The only right way to be an optimist about the big picture is to make sure you're ready for when shit goes sideways on the day to day stuff.

For instance a big silver lining about four years of trump, this is one of the few scenarios people stay politically engaged after the election, thru the midterms, and onto 2028.

Republicans have the Oval, the House, and the Senate. There is not much they can do that people will blame on Dems.

Historically he'll lose House or Senate in two years. Hopefully both, but ideally the Senate. There's benefits to the other way around too tho.

Adjust your timescale you're looking at this with. 4 years ain't long, two years ain't shit. Think of all the fucked up horrible shit we've done as a country. Realize that even if things get worse then they ever been in America (incredibly unlikely) we've bounced back before and we'll bounce back eventually again.

This is going to suck.

But 20 years from now we might look back on this as the last speed bump before we finally fixed our political system. Empires burn down all the time, but ash makes fertile soil.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 6 points 20 hours ago

There is a possibility that in their haste to suck him off, the Republicans either all but eliminate or completely nuke the filibuster. If this happens and we have another election, there is no way it isn't a positive development IMO. The filibuster absolutely sucks and is a clear obstacle to majoritarian rule in the country.

If they pull this to do wildly unpopular things on a short time scale, it will suck, no doubt, but they will likely pay a huge price for doing unpopular things in the next cycle.

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[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 5 points 20 hours ago

I find it equally likely he tries to be in power until his last breath as it is for him to set the White House ablaze just before handing the keys to it's next owner.

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[–] ynthrepic@lemmy.world 24 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Ben Shapiro is a hypocritical piece of shit. Sorry that might not be relevant.

[–] TurnpikeRangers@lemmy.world 13 points 21 hours ago

Nah, that's always relevant

[–] Aedis@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago

Ben Shapiro is a hypocritical piece of shit.

Ftfy.

[–] Ravenzfire@lemmy.ml 10 points 20 hours ago

Jk, jk...unless...

[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago

It wasn't a joke.

It's not a joke, you fucking idiot.

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 23 hours ago

ITS NOT A "JOKE" AND NEVER FUCKING HAS BEEN

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